tow rope / recovery strop

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landybird said:
from a complete novices point of veiw:eek: why didn't you pull him out backwards, the way he went in?, my thinking being if he went in that way it's possibley easier to get out that way too:confused:
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Its a recovery not sex:doh: its like being on GMTV sofa round here these days:D
 
landybird said:
my thinking being if he went in that way it's possibley easier to get out that way too:confused:
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An obvious point often missed by the most experienced off roader.

As for the original question.....get a good quality fibre rope that is about as thick as your index and middle finger together......not what Halfords would call Heavy Duty either.

A KERR is a useful tool in the right hands. Does need proper tow points and both parties need to know what they are doing. Their use is a bit of an art and most accidents that I have seen are due to apes thinking that they are a cure-all slide hammer. Learn 'dead' recovery first.

A good place to start would be here DIFFLOCK.com - Driving Techniques
 
andyb66 said:
An obvious point often missed by the most experienced off roader.

As for the original question.....get a good quality fibre rope that is about as thick as your index and middle finger together......not what Halfords would call Heavy Duty either.

A KERR is a useful tool in the right hands. Does need proper tow points and both parties need to know what they are doing. Their use is a bit of an art and most accidents that I have seen are due to apes thinking that they are a cure-all slide hammer. Learn 'dead' recovery first.

A good place to start would be here DIFFLOCK.com - Driving Techniques
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ROPE!
ROPE!
ROPE!

Forget straps strops they are for wiching and straight pull only! if you need a small tug if you get "stuck" you will more often need a rope 24mm nylon is a good one to have and look after it. Strops are generally used by inexperienced "offroaders" in shagged £200 discoverys on pay and play sites IMO. if you do get stuck then a rope is far superior to a strop. it gives which means when the strain is taken up it is taken up over a longer period and be great for smooth effortless SAFE recoverys. Strops if used wrongly (frequently used very wrongly) will rip off bits of rated recovery euipment and transmit lots of instant force that can and will damage your car and possibly your back if used in the wrong circumstances.

Listen to Andy66, Genuine trialling and recovery experience and from everything I have heared from his posts nice chap. Strops look amateurish IMO. Give me a 24mm 6 or 8 meter poly or nylon rope any day!
 
G-man said:
i had a 24mm rope but the fooker used to get damaged to easy i have switched to strops as they are easier to store and don't get damaged as quick (in my experience)
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I use both and never had any problems. Slow and steady works for me. Strops are only a problem if the recovery driver is a twot.
 
redhand said:
I use both and never had any problems. Slow and steady works for me. Strops are only a problem if the recovery driver is a twot.
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Here, here!!!! Reds right, the rope or strop argument doesn't matter Knowing how to use them is the most important' thats where the **** ups happen
 
I use mainly strops for offroading. I carry strops that vary from 12ft to 75ft in length and rated at between 2.5ton and 15ton. I also carry a chain bridle and 1x20ft chain and 2x 12ft chains. I have 3 winch cables (1x120ft, 1x75ft and 1x50ft) which I can also use if needs be. (I usually keep these on board my truck unless I know I'm gonna need them). They're dead handy for when you need to pull a vehicle from around bends. I have 4 snatch blocks so can negotiate several bends in one hit. I also carry 50ft of 24mm rope and 2 grapling hooks (for fishing for vehicles underwater).

I also carry a kenetic rope but have never had the need to use it yet.

For emergency use I also carry 2 jate rings onboard. If people get stuck and don't have a decent recovery point they can easily be fitted and removed again after the recovery.
 
G-man said:
i hope they is cast jate rings ratty!
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The set I carry in my truck are cast. The ones I keep in the back of my landy are welded. When I find another set of cast ones at the right price I'll have em. I also carry a set of rear crossmember lifting rings but again they are for emergency use and haven't had to use em yet (and wouldn't really like to unless I have no other choice). I also carry a spare drop hitch too.:)
 
ratty said:
I use mainly strops for offroading. I carry strops that vary from 12ft to 75ft in length and rated at between 2.5ton and 15ton. I also carry a chain bridle and 1x20ft chain and 2x 12ft chains. I have 3 winch cables (1x120ft, 1x75ft and 1x50ft) which I can also use if needs be. (I usually keep these on board my truck unless I know I'm gonna need them). They're dead handy for when you need to pull a vehicle from around bends. I have 4 snatch blocks so can negotiate several bends in one hit. I also carry 50ft of 24mm rope and 2 grapling hooks (for fishing for vehicles underwater).

I also carry a kenetic rope but have never had the need to use it yet.

For emergency use I also carry 2 jate rings onboard. If people get stuck and don't have a decent recovery point they can easily be fitted and removed again after the recovery.
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Bloody ell are you a timelord, that much gear you must be driving the Tardis:D
 
ratty said:
The set I carry in my truck are cast. The ones I keep in the back of my landy are welded. When I find another set of cast ones at the right price I'll have em. I also carry a set of rear crossmember lifting rings but again they are for emergency use and haven't had to use em yet (and wouldn't really like to unless I have no other choice). I also carry a spare drop hitch too.:)
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you would have 50 fits if you saw the manky old strop that the garage i used to work for use to recover cars and vans from ditches........

i refused to use it wheni went out to pull a lwb transit out of a ditch.... i also refused to use the works vauxhall truck so i took me landy.... everyone said that it would need a lorry with a hiab i had it out within 2 mins :D
 
ratty said:
lets just say that there generally aint a lot of room in the back of my landy.

I haven't even started on the tools, fuel, oil, spare track arms and other spare parts, trolley jack, bottle jack, hi-lift, diagnostics computer, etc etc:eek:
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Is it fair to say that your not an optimist, Ratty:D
 
G-man said:
you would have 50 fits if you saw the manky old strop that the garage i used to work for use to recover cars and vans from ditches........

i refused to use it wheni went out to pull a lwb transit out of a ditch.... i also refused to use the works vauxhall truck so i took me landy.... everyone said that it would need a lorry with a hiab i had it out within 2 mins :D
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I had to use a vauxhall brava at Glastonbury this year cos magnetic signs don't stick to me landy (funnily enough). I'm glad i only had to tow 3 vehicles cos it was gutless. I had to keep it in 4wd low even on tarmac cos it was the onle way to get vehicles moving.:mad::mad::mad:

It's amazing how many vehicle in ditches or on top of hedges and walls etc allegedly 'NEED' Hiabs. Trying to explain to people that a) you have to be able to get to the wheels to stick clamps on em, and b) the clamps won't stay in mid air on their own can be quite taxing. My flatbed is fantastic for lifting and my winch and pto are specially mated to give me variable speed winching. I can winch faster than a warn 8274:p. I have used my winch to bump start cars on several occasions when I can't be arsed to push or if customers are incapable of understanding how to lift their foot off the clutch when I shout NOW.:cool:

It's taken me years to get all my recovery gear uptogether. I used to get paid a percentage of specialist charges so it was worth it. Unfortunately now I just get a flat rate.:(
 
Ratty

a. Whats a HIAB
b. Try putting a magnet inside landy so stickers stick, should work at low speeds
 
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treestump said:
Is it fair to say that your not an optimist, Ratty:D
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Erm.....:eek:

I think it's fair to say that if you go offroading with a group, someone will break summit. (especially if they comes from the dorset area;):p).

I think it's also safe to say that whenever you can't afford to get stuck cos yer on yer own, you WILL get stuck. I like to have several back-up plans.;)

Last year I smacked my track rod arms and bent em pretty badly while on Salisbury plain.:doh: Ever since then I've carried a full spare set onboard even though my landy now has heavy duty ones fitted. It's not uncommon for things like jacks to sink, colapse, break etc. I like to know that I've got enough kit onboard.

I also carry a small first aid kit, a large 50 person one, 3 fire extinguishers, foil blankets, disposable rain capes, 2 full sets of waterproofs etc etc.:D:D:D
 
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