Shill bidding on E-Bay

Hi,

I have just recently bought another landrover after a few years without one

Is it just me or do landrover parts get bidded up a lot, i buy quite a bit of stuff off ebay but when sourcing landrover parts i'm sure a lot of what i've been after has been bidded up dishonestly, do others find this or is it that i have just been unlucky.

your not alone in this tbh, i let things run and go for whtever, i lost £40 on a new v8 centre box less than a week old but hey ho..

Not very sure but most of the things I buy are up here in the North of England/South of Scotland so not so much competition but its bound to be going on. Just bid wot you think its worth.

Think there is a bit of it going on.

I dont bid untill end that tests how much they want to hang onto the part

tacr2man said:

I dont bid untill end that tests how much they want to hang onto the part

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how does that work ?

how do you know it was shill bidding?

goonarmy said:

how do you know it was shill bidding?

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I wondered that too, i thought all bidders were 'private' to anyone but the seller ?

It it very difficult to identify shill bidding since bidders names were hidden by a random generated code, you used to be able to look at histories.

It has been a bone of contention and the ones who gain from all this are the sellers/higher price and Ebay/higher fees and less work checking shill bidding reports.

I always bid my max in the last 5 seconds, I either get it or wait for the next one to come along....

ive had a couple lately where ive been outbid.... then about 24 hours after the end the 2nd chance offer email comes.....the give away is the offer is still for more than what my max bid was..

goonarmy said:

how do you know it was shill bidding?

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I'll give you three examples:

1) I bidded on some nice compomotive wheels and tyres, there was quite a lot of interest up until it got to around £375 then it was just me and another bidder going higher i copped out at £405, they sold for £415.

A week later the same wheels and tyres were up for £425 buy it now from the same e-bayer, i emailed them and asked them how come they still got them and they replied the buyer didn't want them cause his mrs had bought some else where, a lightly story imo.

2) I have two Trac edge tyres which are quite hard to get hold of now i wanted a set and one came up on Ebay, it was at 99p no bidders, i knew i wasn't going to be at the end of the auction so i bid what i thought it was worth £30.
I lost the auction to another bidder with zero feedback who won it for £31 and the week after it was back up for sale by the same ebayer who listed it to begin with!

3) Again i new i wasn't going to be at the end of the auction for a bumper i saw, it was at 99p no bidders, i put £25 on it, and i won it for £25, however it was bidded up to that amount by another ebayer with zero feedback with no other bidders bidding, and you could see what he had been bidding on all types of landrover bits and pieces, probably all his mates if it were not the same person!

Thats why i think i was shill bidded or maybe i was just unlucky i dont know but i dont seem to have issues like this with other stuff i bought from ebay.

Here we go i may be paranoid about members with zero feedback but check it out, i put £25 on this bumper and ta da another ebayer with zero feedback bid it straight up to £20

landrover defender bumper with A bar and spot lights | eBay

I dont think this one is shill bidding but these zero feedback bidders that bidd up consecutively do my head in!

Everyones gotta start with 0 feedback…..

Here we go i may be paranoid about members with zero feedback but check it out

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Bidder Information
Bidder: i***i( 0 )
Feedback: 0%Positive
Item description: Item Title: landrover defender bumper with A bar and spot lights
Bids on this item: 3
30-Day Summary
Total bids: 4
Items bid on: 2
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 100%
Bid retractions: 0
Bid retractions (6 months): 0

This does look shilly as the bidder has bid on 2 items, both from this seller. trouble is you can only get 30days history, sellers who shill may have a number of other identities that they rotate over time.

Always bid at the last moment, that way the shiller has not got the time to bid up to your max, if you are not around to bid use JustSnipe: eBay auction sniper software offers free snipe every week to do it for you.

As said before
Don't show your hand untill the last moment.
I always bid in the last 3 seconds with the max amount I am wiling to pay for an item. If I win it great, if I dont it was too expensive and not worth it in my mind

i should imagine it happens alot all the parts sellers i know do it for each other

Shill bidding is more common than Ebay will admit. The best attitude to have is put ya maximum in, if ya don't win, so what?! Don't hold grudges,and move on to the next one....no hassle

More of an issue is if ya win something, then either never receive it, or seller is a cock n never tells ya where to collect from/ goes silent. That really ****es m off

Moto to have is, you haven't won it til you've actually got it.


It works both ways though... I sell photographic gear online for a living, just celebrated over 10,000 feedback and have to say that there's an increasing number of silly buyers out there who simply do not read descriptions look at photos or pay any attention to anything in front of them.


...as a tip, if you want a bargain for your Land Rover, its not a good idea to type the obvious into a search ie Land Rover!! sounds daft, but it works...think outside the box, cos there's plenty of sellers out there who are most definately way out of their boxes!!!...some of the listings I've seen are simply mind blowingly poor

Sean said:

how does that work ?

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Use auction sniper and only place your bid 3 seconds from the end. This will not give the seller chance to use their other account to up the price closer to your maximum limit.

If you bid early it's worth a seller risking bidding on their own item with a second account to up the price, if they accidently outbid the highest bidder they can either hope someone else will out bid them - or retract their bid, now knowing what the previous bidders maximum bid was. They can then use a 3rd account to bid up to just below your maximum amount.

.......if ya win something, then either never receive it.......

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I won a project ser 2, the day before I was due to collect it the seller informed me that a hay trailor had skidded on the ice and demolished the shed crushing the land rover.... I offered to buy the bits.... He said he was weighing it in...did I believe any of this? It is now shown on Doovela as road taxed.
I did suggest that if he wanted more for it he should have set a reserve but that would have meant higher fees....

Bump said:

Use auction sniper and only place your bid 3 seconds from the end. This will not give the seller chance to use their other account to up the price closer to your maximum limit.

If you bid early it's worth a seller risking bidding on their own item with a second account to up the price, if they accidently outbid the highest bidder they can either hope someone else will out bid them - or retract their bid, now knowing what the previous bidders maximum bid was. They can then use a 3rd account to bid up to just below your maximum amount.

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This doesnt work. Sniping is failed. Early bids is the only way to win. Put wot yer prepared to pay. ebay will auto bid it up for you. If you and a sniper bid the same amount the earlist bid wins it. infailable.