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Saint.V8

Dyed-in-the-wool 100% RR Junkie
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....now now you dirty bunch......

Her 1991 Defender 110 is due its MOT in mid June and knowing it would need a bit of work and a spot of welding, I arranged with my dad (who has a useful driveway) to spend a few days on his drive pulling out the old fuel tank, do some welding and a bit of tlc in readiness for the MOT....

Well, started Wednesday morning, swear and cursed at the fuel tank until it relented and came out...the spill return and pick up pipes snapped at the bends there were that brittle....

Any who, looked at the crossmember in front of the tank and found this -

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OK, a bit of a bugger but OK....depends on how far I'd have to cut out the rust back to good metal again, but OK....I can deal with that (just)

Then cleaning up one area I knew needed welding, so began cleaning the chassis back to bare metal and the holes just kept getting bigger....

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RIght, fine....that area has been patched before, OK...I can just about deal with that bit.

Now, lets begin cleaning up the other side of that rear dumb iron, this has been patched before, and now that patch has rotted through, and I still haven't found any good metal that is thick enough to weld to...

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Now this beginning to get a bit deep now. OK, so I'd need to cut out the whole side section of the chassis, make up a new section and weld that in....hmmm, this is beginning to get more than my limited welding skills can handle...but OK...lets take a look at that other hole on the other side....

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This is where the tow bar bracing goes, and I tore it out trying to pull a tree from across a road....looks simple enough to cut out, plate in and weld together - wonder how much I'd have to cut back before I find good metal to weld too though??!?

Hmmm.....lets leave that one for now and take a closer look at the two holes by the trailing arm bracket and rear outrigger....

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How annoying, it is under the bracket, I may be able to get a patch on that, but be easier to remove the bracket.....do I realy want to do that?, this is becoming a mine field and this chassis already has a number of patches on the rear of it...not very well done mind you, but patched all the same.....

Wait a minute.....what the hell is that going up along the outrigger gusset plate to the left of the holes in front of the trailing arm bracket?

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Lets take a closer look.....

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Now that is it, that is for me and my skills, time, equipment and ability the end of the road....the chassis is split in half.

Many a fellow could save this chassis, but I don't have the time, space, skill or equipment to lift the body, cut out the rust and then weld two halves of a chassis back together then rebuild the car...it is too much for me.

And Lord knows how far back you'd have to go to find good metal, the chassis is quite heavily rusted and pitted, and when tapped with a hammer or a screwdriver, it is sounding thin and flaky.

Massive shame as the 300Tdi engine in this one pulls like a train, makes my 300Tdi seem like it is from the dark ages!

It also has the R380 gearbox and Disco transfer box, so went like stink too.

Big shame, the rest of the car is in good fettle, not great or brilliant, but certainly not bad or tatty.

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Now it is 1900kg of rusting hulk on the drive with no fuel tank and a chassis like swiss cheese....massive massive shame - girlfriend is truly gutted....
 
Welding is not feasible on that ANT, chassis is scrap. That has not happened overnight one would ask how it passed it's last test.
 
....now now you dirty bunch......

Her 1991 Defender 110 is due its MOT in mid June and knowing it would need a bit of work and a spot of welding, I arranged with my dad (who has a useful driveway) to spend a few days on his drive pulling out the old fuel tank, do some welding and a bit of tlc in readiness for the MOT....

Well, started Wednesday morning, swear and cursed at the fuel tank until it relented and came out...the spill return and pick up pipes snapped at the bends there were that brittle....

Any who, looked at the crossmember in front of the tank and found this -

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OK, a bit of a bugger but OK....depends on how far I'd have to cut out the rust back to good metal again, but OK....I can deal with that (just)

Then cleaning up one area I knew needed welding, so began cleaning the chassis back to bare metal and the holes just kept getting bigger....

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RIght, fine....that area has been patched before, OK...I can just about deal with that bit.

Now, lets begin cleaning up the other side of that rear dumb iron, this has been patched before, and now that patch has rotted through, and I still haven't found any good metal that is thick enough to weld to...

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Now this beginning to get a bit deep now. OK, so I'd need to cut out the whole side section of the chassis, make up a new section and weld that in....hmmm, this is beginning to get more than my limited welding skills can handle...but OK...lets take a look at that other hole on the other side....

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This is where the tow bar bracing goes, and I tore it out trying to pull a tree from across a road....looks simple enough to cut out, plate in and weld together - wonder how much I'd have to cut back before I find good metal to weld too though??!?

Hmmm.....lets leave that one for now and take a closer look at the two holes by the trailing arm bracket and rear outrigger....

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How annoying, it is under the bracket, I may be able to get a patch on that, but be easier to remove the bracket.....do I realy want to do that?, this is becoming a mine field and this chassis already has a number of patches on the rear of it...not very well done mind you, but patched all the same.....

Wait a minute.....what the hell is that going up along the outrigger gusset plate to the left of the holes in front of the trailing arm bracket?

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Lets take a closer look.....

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Now that is it, that is for me and my skills, time, equipment and ability the end of the road....the chassis is split in half.

Many a fellow could save this chassis, but I don't have the time, space, skill or equipment to lift the body, cut out the rust and then weld two halves of a chassis back together then rebuild the car...it is too much for me.

And Lord knows how far back you'd have to go to find good metal, the chassis is quite heavily rusted and pitted, and when tapped with a hammer or a screwdriver, it is sounding thin and flaky.

Massive shame as the 300Tdi engine in this one pulls like a train, makes my 300Tdi seem like it is from the dark ages!

It also has the R380 gearbox and Disco transfer box, so went like stink too.

Big shame, the rest of the car is in good fettle, not great or brilliant, but certainly not bad or tatty.

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Now it is 1900kg of rusting hulk on the drive with no fuel tank and a chassis like swiss cheese....massive massive shame - girlfriend is truly gutted....
thats beyond repair,it needs another chassis what are you going to do sell ?
 
Wow, looks like it's time for a replacement chassis, car looks otherwise very tidy. Rot didn't get that bad in a year surely?
 
My old 90 was completely rotten from front to back, nothing survived, just melted away.
Looks good with a nice shiny silver chassis now.
 
I'm surprised it ever got a ticket, I looked over the chassis when we bought it wit ha fresh MOT, and it didn't look to bad....then after a few months I noticed these holes appearing....if you look closely at this one...

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You can see traces of filler....

The whole rear half of the chassis was covered in it...once I started going at places with the flap disc to take the surface paint and gunge off, I was getting covered in white dust with that all too familiar smell of filler.....

As I say, when I looked at it at purchase it looked passable, but a year later, with some off road trips, frequent washes etc....the filler finally showed through, and chipping away at it revealed the true nature of the chassis..!!

I feel mugged, but Buyer Beware and all that....and we enjoyed it for the while we had it!.....

So she is now driving my 1988 110 (which has a really good looking chassis - I checked that fully today - again, and again) and I have just bought a cheap run around to tie me over as we have zero cash, trying to save for our wedding next year, and a 3 year old who is growing up fast!

So for the first time in over 17 years not only am I without a Range Rover, but without any Green Oval of my own!
 
Yup sorn it, pay Dad to put it on the drive ... save like billy-o, have a really great 'my friends-helped-me-put-a-wedding-on' wedding and buy a galvy chassis, the three year-old will learn loads helping take it apart and put it back together ....

You will all love it for years ... and you'll never be afraid of it or working on it again ...
 
Galv dream then it'll be a beaut when can afford
Pity about getting mugged buying it :confused:

There are those who have spent fortune on buying a vehicle and it's a complete lemon, engine, box, body ... all of it worth £250

At least you know the engine and box, axels etc are good... get some advice on here about storing the engine, box for a while, even 2 years is not a long time for this sort of project ...
 
Always take a toffee Hanmer and screwdriver to a fender chassis if isn't clearly mint! They always have more problems than think when buy tho just life haha
 
Makes you wander where some people get MOT's I looked up it's MOT history,not even one advisory last year and the year before is says " some light corrosion on structure !!! " Some barsteward having a giraffe .
 
Realistically what would you be likely to spend on a car that you would WANT to have for the next decade or so?
This seems to be begging for a bit (OK a lot) spent on it, but when done at least you will have the vehicle you want and can cherish.
 
Makes you wander where some people get MOT's I looked up it's MOT history,not even one advisory last year and the year before is says " some light corrosion on structure !!! " Some barsteward having a giraffe .

Sadly there's lots of dodgy MOTs about :(

Pikey bought his with 11 months MOT and a pressure wash underneath revealed a hole in the front dumb iron I could put my fist in....He was gutted.
 
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