Ramps or axle stands
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Stickybackbob
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Spoil yourself and get both!
Axle stands can be a pain because you have to lift the car onto them. Ramps can be a pain because they're a set height and you can't move the wheels.
To be honest, you'd probably get away without either if you're just changing the exhaust. Plenty of room under the car without the need to lift it up. Let us know how you get on.
Axle stands can be a pain because you have to lift the car onto them. Ramps can be a pain because they're a set height and you can't move the wheels.
To be honest, you'd probably get away without either if you're just changing the exhaust. Plenty of room under the car without the need to lift it up. Let us know how you get on.
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Ramps for a quick job that doesn't need the wheel off the ground if you know what I mean. Stands if you need to take the wheel off or rotate it for some reason. For an exhaust job I'd use ramps. Neither will cost you much so get both and you're covered.
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get a lift kit and a pit
Dent
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I use old railway sleepers, got plenty of ground but it's too uneven/soft for stands.
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Decent ramps always seem to take up so much access space, while stands always get in the way of the trolley jack!
We tend to use stands, have got a set of four X 3ton shorties plus a 2.5ton Halfrauds trolley jack. Does most of what we need.
Getting the exhaust out of the back of the V8 the other day needed the axle dropping, might have been a problem with a ramp.
Peter
We tend to use stands, have got a set of four X 3ton shorties plus a 2.5ton Halfrauds trolley jack. Does most of what we need.
Getting the exhaust out of the back of the V8 the other day needed the axle dropping, might have been a problem with a ramp.
Peter
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discool
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On a 300 series (diesel or petrol) removing the exhaust is only a problem if trying to remove or replace a one piece system, but if it's two piece then all thats needed is to jack the disco up at the back to get the angle of approach for the pipe over the axle.
It's also easer to get to the rear hanger if the rear near side wheel is removed.
It's also easer to get to the rear hanger if the rear near side wheel is removed.
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hughesy
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Most useful bit of kit I ever bought is an engine crane. Hook it round the towbar and lift the fooker as high as you want
MartinK
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Where are you? If you're near Edinburgh you can borrow my Axle Stands (3 ton ones).
Beware that Halfrauds-type cheapy stands may not have enough load rating for a Landy - I bought 3-ton ones.
I usually drive my car onto something (such as a group of bricks) for larger jobs under the car...
Beware that Halfrauds-type cheapy stands may not have enough load rating for a Landy - I bought 3-ton ones.
I usually drive my car onto something (such as a group of bricks) for larger jobs under the car...
thebiglad
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To do this job efficiently you need to raise the chassis, not the wheels. So ramps, although useful generally, won't help with this job.
You would be better off with a trolley jack (3ton capacity) and axle stands (min 3ton cap). Jack up the chassis using the trolley jack then put the stands in place to stabilise, while you work on the vehicle.
iannotts
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How heavy is your landy??
a jack will be normaly only lifting a 1/4 to 1/2 the weight of the total landy and they have a built in saftey factor as well
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Why would you need min. 3 ton axle stands? The whole vehicle only weighs 2 ton max. Therefore for arguments sake say half the weight of the landy on a pair of stands would only be a ton or roughly 500kg per stand. I agree a bigger jack is better than a little one that's struggling at the limit of what it can lift though. Having said that the little bottle jack that comes with discos is more than man enough for the job.
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Why?
I have a Halfords 2-tonne Jack bought with a pair of 2-ton axle stands as a 'gift set' for £19.99 maybe 10 years ago .. they've been used at least once a month every month in that time and are still bloody good!
Bear in mind that an axle stand is normally only carrying 1/4 of the weight, ditto the jack unless you're doing something stupid, so 2 tonne stuff is ideal and cost-effective.
I might say different if I were using them every day, or needed to leave the Landy on axle stands for a long while and the Jack does take some effort, but for normal servicing/random fettling etc they're absolutely ideal.
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I use a 2 tonne jack but 3 tonne axle stands.. my problem with the jack is the lift isn't high enough so have been meaning to buy a bigger one for a while..
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thebiglad
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One of the benefits of a heavy weight trolly jack is that they lift higher. Mine has a max saddle height of 504mm and it has 'rocket lift'.
Mine is the same jack and for me it just works and I trust it to be reliable.
This whole thing of "a Disco only weighs 2tons in total.............."etc etc is not how I want to work.
I need tools that are more than just adequate, for the job. Life has taught me that if you buy good, highly specc'd tools they will last and do a reliable and quality job, making everything just that be easier to do.
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I agree, bought a 2t trolley jack, the fella in the shop said "you only lift 1 corner at a time" Well it struggles to lift me rangie and lowering it is dangerous, it just drops!
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LRO did a review of jacks a year or two ago and they went for a 3 ton Sealey trolly jack the reason it's wider and therefore more stable also value for money.
No problem with it lifting one end or one side ie. two wheels off the ground on a disco, RR or 110
No problem with it lifting one end or one side ie. two wheels off the ground on a disco, RR or 110
