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/\/ / & E wrote:
> "/\/ / & E" <nigel.ince****[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Well, having had a brand new gearbox at 390 miles the Touareg now needs
>>>another gearbox after a thousand. It's all over the place, in 3rd jumping
>>>to fifth etc. It is obviously fecked. It needs a new door lock, a new
>>>windscreen, a new sat nav system all after a thousand mile - appalling.
>>>
>>>I'm afraid it is going to have to go back for a full refund.
>>>
>>>I am very disappointed.
>>>
>>>Nige
>>>
>>>--
>>>Subaru WRX (Annabel)
>>>
>>>Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)
>>>
>>>'"Say hello to my little friend"
>>>
>>
>>Well, I have just sent the garage a formal rejection letter stating all
>>faults and the reason for the rejection. Lets see what happens now!
>>
>>Nige
>>
>
>
> Sorted, they are taking it back & we're getting a full refund.
>
> God knows what she will do for a car now!
>
> Need I ask, she'll be using my Subaru & I'll be using the Land Rover!!
>
> Nige
>
>

So, there's one big difference between VW and LR - you got agreement on
rejection and a full refund in a couple of hours. LR would have ignored
you for six months and then tried to worm out of any sort of refund ...
"they all do that sir!"

--
Regards

Steve G
 

"SteveG" <_@_._> wrote in message
news:p[email protected]...
> /\/ / & E wrote:
>> "/\/ / & E" <nigel.ince****[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>Well, having had a brand new gearbox at 390 miles the Touareg now needs
>>>>another gearbox after a thousand. It's all over the place, in 3rd
>>>>jumping to fifth etc. It is obviously fecked. It needs a new door lock,
>>>>a new windscreen, a new sat nav system all after a thousand mile -
>>>>appalling.
>>>>
>>>>I'm afraid it is going to have to go back for a full refund.
>>>>
>>>>I am very disappointed.
>>>>
>>>>Nige
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Subaru WRX (Annabel)
>>>>
>>>>Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)
>>>>
>>>>'"Say hello to my little friend"
>>>>
>>>
>>>Well, I have just sent the garage a formal rejection letter stating all
>>>faults and the reason for the rejection. Lets see what happens now!
>>>
>>>Nige
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sorted, they are taking it back & we're getting a full refund.
>>
>> God knows what she will do for a car now!
>>
>> Need I ask, she'll be using my Subaru & I'll be using the Land Rover!!
>>
>> Nige
>
> So, there's one big difference between VW and LR - you got agreement on
> rejection and a full refund in a couple of hours. LR would have ignored
> you for six months and then tried to worm out of any sort of refund ...
> "they all do that sir!"
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Steve G

Where upon I would have drove it to the place & left it there!


 

>>>>
>>>
>>>Well, I have just sent the garage a formal rejection letter stating all
>>>faults and the reason for the rejection. Lets see what happens now!
>>>
>>>Nige
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sorted, they are taking it back & we're getting a full refund.
>>
>> God knows what she will do for a car now!
>>
>> Need I ask, she'll be using my Subaru & I'll be using the Land Rover!!
>>
>> Nige
>>
>>
>
>So, there's one big difference between VW and LR - you got agreement on
>rejection and a full refund in a couple of hours. LR would have ignored
>you for six months and then tried to worm out of any sort of refund ...
>"they all do that sir!"

VW customer service were equally swift in sorting out a complaint I
took up on behalf of my sister when the dealer charged her for new
disks and pads on a 3000 mile old car.

That could be why they have a good reputation despite lots of known
reliablity issues, where LR have such an awful one.


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70
 

>
> God knows what she will do for a car now!
>
You mentioned Japanese earlier...Nissan X-Trail? The wife has had an Almera
for nearly 3 years, it's never ever let us down (he says, tocuhing every
piece of wood he can see), and their servicing and customer service has been
excellent (although we haven't had to use them much)..


--
--
Thanks,
Paul
--------------------
1992 RRC Vogue SE


 

"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:b195ea64d%[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>
> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Well, having had a brand new gearbox at 390 miles the Touareg now needs
>> another gearbox after a thousand.
>> It's all over the place, in 3rd jumping to fifth etc. It is obviously
>> fecked. It needs a new door lock, a
>> new windscreen, a new sat nav system all after a thousand mile -
>> appalling.
>>
>> I'm afraid it is going to have to go back for a full refund.
>>
>> I am very disappointed.
>>
>> Nige
>>
>
> Disappointed? - understandable. Surprised? You shouldn't be too much -
> VW make the most unreliable part on a Freelander and overall they are
> nowhere near as reliable as the Saloon Bar Experts would have you
> believe.
>
> Richard

We have had seven of the things & never had one problem. Apart from a coil
pack blowing on the Audi A4 convertible.

Unreal.


 
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:42:36 +0100, "Pacman" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>>
>> God knows what she will do for a car now!
>>
>You mentioned Japanese earlier...Nissan X-Trail? The wife has had an Almera
>for nearly 3 years, it's never ever let us down (he says, tocuhing every
>piece of wood he can see), and their servicing and customer service has been
>excellent (although we haven't had to use them much)..
>
>
>--

I challenge anyone to break a Nissan. I thrashed mine over 80,000
miles and all it ever said was "come on, gimme more"....


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70
 
Pacman wrote:
>> interestingly, they sold discos in Japan badged as Hondas... can't
>> see Honda
>> agreeing to that if they thought it was going to spoil the brand
>> name.
>
> The Honda Crossroad
>
> http://www.nzbcd.com/dealers/1422/car/224545_medium_top.jpg
>
>
> --

They bough the isuzu trooper too!!

Nige

--
Subaru WRX (Annabel)

Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

'"Say hello to my little friend"


 
On or around Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:49:24 GMT, SteveG <_@_._> enlightened us
thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>> On or around Mon, 5 Sep 2005 22:11:54 +0100, "Nige"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>
>>>jOn wrote:
>>>
>>>>Honda then
>>>
>>>Yeah, the S2000 seems a decent car!
>>>
>>
>>
>> interestingly, they sold discos in Japan badged as Hondas... can't see Honda
>> agreeing to that if they thought it was going to spoil the brand name.
>
>That was a long time ago, Austin, and before Honda had a 4x4 of their
>own. I don't think Honda had such a good name in those days anyway :)

not that long ago - and Honda have had a name for reliable engineering for
quite a long time.

It's been said (I know not if it be true) that there's never been a failure
of the Vtec system on Honda's engines.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; and
therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee"
John Donne (1571? - 1631) Devotions, XVII
 
On or around Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:44:39 +0100, Moving Vision
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Just a bit off topic but I'm looking for a good used van in the 3,500K
>to 5,500K range. I've had both Mercedes and Transits in the past and the
>old brick shaped Mercs (208, 308) were about as strong and reliable as
>one could expect from a van. 'Trouble is these new Sprinters are not the
>same stuff at all, I'm told it's because they make 'em in Spain at much
>lower build quality then the old Stuttgart models ? I'm now told that
>the VW LT35 is the only van still built remotely like the old Stuttgart
>Mercs and that they are currently the 'Rolls Royce' of vans as far as
>build, durability and reliability is concerned. Hearing all this about
>other VW products has made me pause on my decision. I'd be grateful if
>for any insights or experience about this?

well, FWIW - the LDV convoy I'm running is standing up to the hammering I
give it so far. Transit engine and box, which are about the best bits of
the tranny anyway. Personally, I prefer the old 2.5 engine to the
newfangled 2.4 which is all electronic.

The SWB convoy is a nice size, too. There are twin-wheel SWBs, such as my
bus, or single-wheel. The LWB has about 2' more length, I think, maybe a
tad more.

Also in favour of the convoy are ultra-simple single-leaf suspension with a
minimum of linkages etc., bloody great solid spring bushes and shackles. In
fact the whole van is simple and straightforward, and seems reasonably
solid. the trays under the dash look a bit feeble and may need work to stop
them shaking apart, but the rest of it is staying put pretty well with about
10 miles per day of rough unmade road. 'twill be 15 miles, this year...

as a second-hand buy, I'd rate it: you can get a much newer, lower-mileage
one for yer bucks than you can a transit or merc, 'cos they're not popular -
but the engine and box is the same as the transit, the rear axle is a nice
solid lump, the front axle is a big beam with needle-roller kingpins...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25
 
On or around Tue, 6 Sep 2005 14:43:54 +0100, "/\\/ / & E"
<nigel.ince****[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "/\/ / & E" <nigel.ince****[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "/\/ / & E" <nigel.ince****[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Well, having had a brand new gearbox at 390 miles the Touareg now needs
>>>>> another gearbox after a thousand. It's all over the place, in 3rd
>>>>> jumping to fifth etc. It is obviously fecked. It needs a new door lock,
>>>>> a new windscreen, a new sat nav system all after a thousand mile -
>>>>> appalling.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm afraid it is going to have to go back for a full refund.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am very disappointed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nige
>>>>>
>>>>> --?
>>>>> Subaru WRX (Annabel)
>>>>>
>>>>> Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)
>>>>>
>>>>> '"Say hello to my little friend"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, I have just sent the garage a formal rejection letter stating all
>>>> faults and the reason for the rejection. Lets see what happens now!
>>>>
>>>> Nige
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorted, they are taking it back & we're getting a full refund.
>>>
>>> God knows what she will do for a car now!
>>>
>>> Need I ask, she'll be using my Subaru & I'll be using the Land Rover!!
>>
>> Disco II, you know it makes sense;-)
>> Badger.
>>
>
>From what I see they don't fair much better ;~(
>

late-model disco I then.

actually, given the choice and the money, I'd hunt the best, most recent and
lowest mileage RR classic LSE I could find - I reckon this is about the best
RR or disco of the lot - simple engineering (bar for the air suspension[1])
and classic looks, and IMHO the LWB version of the classic body actually
looks even better than the SWB 4-door. The original 2-door looks nice,
though, and the LSE would be a close-run choice with a genuine CSK.

It's a great shame, IMHO, that they didn't make a disco LSE on the RR
chassis with a modified disco body. Would have been a cheap development
project for LR and I bet they'd have sold like hot cakes.

[1] and if you wanted, that could be stripped out and converted to steel.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then
something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination -
we learned to talk." Pink Floyd (1994)
 
On or around Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:42:36 +0100, "Pacman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>>
>> God knows what she will do for a car now!
>>
>You mentioned Japanese earlier...Nissan X-Trail? The wife has had an Almera
>for nearly 3 years, it's never ever let us down (he says, tocuhing every
>piece of wood he can see), and their servicing and customer service has been
>excellent (although we haven't had to use them much)..

's hardly toerag-territory, though.

Toyota Landcruiser Amazon... Apparently, th eone to hunt is the 4.2 turbo
diesel, though not easy to get, by all accounts.

Mate of mine has just bought himself a Hilux Surf - 93 model, the one that's
a complete body not a king cab with a fancy top on the pickup. Have to say,
for a 100km motor it looks bloody sound and tidy, all the electrics seem to
work, the body's tidy, coil supsension, 2.4 turbo diesel. Not a bad truck
for about 3.5K. Grey import, of course, but who cares these days?

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then
something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination -
we learned to talk." Pink Floyd (1994)
 

"beamendsltd" wrote ...
after "Nige" wrote:
>
>> Well, having had a brand new gearbox at 390 miles the Touareg now needs
>> another gearbox after a thousand.
>> It's all over the place, in 3rd jumping to fifth etc. It is obviously
>> fecked. It needs a new door lock, a
>> new windscreen, a new sat nav system all after a thousand mile -
>> appalling.
>>
>> I'm afraid it is going to have to go back for a full refund.
>>
>> I am very disappointed.
>
> Disappointed? - understandable. Surprised? You shouldn't be too much -
> VW make the most unreliable part on a Freelander and overall they are
> nowhere near as reliable as the Saloon Bar Experts would have you
> believe.
>

Those Saloon Bar experts are probably still talking about the original
Beetle like they still tell you a Mercedes is the best car in the world,
well built (over engineered) and sold by quality garages. Ten to twenty
years out of date.
Funny that both VW and Mercedes have gone the same way, reliability wise.
Even the German taxi drivers are moving from Mercedes due to the "E" Class
problems. (my neighbour sent his back)

For reliability with driving appeal* the following come to mind.
Honda
BMW
Mazda

*not all in the ranges have that special something although BMW come close.
--
Regards
Bob


 

"Bob Hobden" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
<snip>
> For reliability with driving appeal* the following come to mind.
> Honda
> BMW
> Mazda
>
> *not all in the ranges have that special something although BMW come
> close.

Well, i got rid of a 1999 5 series BMW due to it having "issues" and a lot
of small niggly electrical faults developing, I replaced it with a 2001 330d
and had the following faults in a 12 month period of ownership:
Park sensor problems x2,
Diesel leak at main pump x1,
Surging on initial acceleration from cold start if air temp below 4 degC,
not cured or proven!
CD player cutting out when cornering gently, replaced cd changer,
Front lower wishbone bushes cx'd under warranty - bushes shot at 40k miles!
Drivers seatbelt no retract, replaced,
Rust appearing on inside of bonnet frame.

Now, as much as it was an absolutely fantastic piece of machinery to drive,
these faults are not what all the advertising blurb would have you believe
is the norm for these cars. I must admit, after owning 2 bm's and having the
faults I've had with them at their respective ages and miles, I'll never buy
another one!

On the other hand, my Disco II 4.0V8 (2000) has recently thrown a wobbly and
dumped it's control of the right hand injector bank of the engine, for no
real apparent reason! Cured fairly quickly and painlessly (other than a lot
of headscratching ajnd an un-necessary lambda probe) by an ecu remap at the
local main dealers - £26.00!!! Now, that's the first fault it's shown me in
3 months of ownership, so my fingers are crossed. But somehow, you accept
and almost expect these things with a landrover product, just accepting it
and fixing it again usually without too much complaining. Incidentally, the
ecu is a bosch unit, utilised in a slightly remapped guise in V8 and V12
bmw's! Coincidence? I wonder.
Badger.


 

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:42:36 +0100, "Pacman"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

> Mate of mine has just bought himself a Hilux Surf - 93 model, the one
> that's
> a complete body not a king cab with a fancy top on the pickup. Have to
> say,
> for a 100km motor it looks bloody sound and tidy, all the electrics seem
> to
> work, the body's tidy, coil supsension, 2.4 turbo diesel. Not a bad truck
> for about 3.5K. Grey import, of course, but who cares these days?

Famous for cracked heads


 
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:44:39 +0100, Moving Vision
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>Just a bit off topic but I'm looking for a good used van in the 3,500K
>>to 5,500K range. I've had both Mercedes and Transits in the past and the
>>old brick shaped Mercs (208, 308) were about as strong and reliable as
>>one could expect from a van. 'Trouble is these new Sprinters are not the
>>same stuff at all, I'm told it's because they make 'em in Spain at much
>>lower build quality then the old Stuttgart models ? I'm now told that
>>the VW LT35 is the only van still built remotely like the old Stuttgart
>>Mercs and that they are currently the 'Rolls Royce' of vans as far as
>>build, durability and reliability is concerned. Hearing all this about
>>other VW products has made me pause on my decision. I'd be grateful if
>>for any insights or experience about this?
>
> well, FWIW - the LDV convoy I'm running is standing up to the hammering I
> give it so far. Transit engine and box, which are about the best bits of
> the tranny anyway. Personally, I prefer the old 2.5 engine to the
> newfangled 2.4 which is all electronic.
>
> The SWB convoy is a nice size, too. There are twin-wheel SWBs, such as my
> bus, or single-wheel. The LWB has about 2' more length, I think, maybe a
> tad more.
>
> Also in favour of the convoy are ultra-simple single-leaf suspension with a
> minimum of linkages etc., bloody great solid spring bushes and shackles. In
> fact the whole van is simple and straightforward, and seems reasonably
> solid. the trays under the dash look a bit feeble and may need work to stop
> them shaking apart, but the rest of it is staying put pretty well with about
> 10 miles per day of rough unmade road. 'twill be 15 miles, this year...
>
> as a second-hand buy, I'd rate it: you can get a much newer, lower-mileage
> one for yer bucks than you can a transit or merc, 'cos they're not popular -
> but the engine and box is the same as the transit, the rear axle is a nice
> solid lump, the front axle is a big beam with needle-roller kingpins...


keep the king pins greased and check for lift on a regular basis as
they have a tendency to destroy the bottom bearing and bugger the
stub axles if not caught in time

if you need any info on anything let me know I work for a DAF / LDV
dealer

--
Andy

SWB Series 2a ( dressed as a 3) "Bruce"
It's big, it's mean it's really, really green


 
>> as a second-hand buy, I'd rate it: you can get a much newer, lower-mileage
>> one for yer bucks than you can a transit or merc, 'cos they're not popular -
>> but the engine and box is the same as the transit, the rear axle is a nice
>> solid lump, the front axle is a big beam with needle-roller kingpins...
>
>
> keep the king pins greased and check for lift on a regular basis as
> they have a tendency to destroy the bottom bearing and bugger the
> stub axles if not caught in time


that should be the bottom thrust bearing between stub and axle

long night you see
--
Andy

SWB Series 2a ( dressed as a 3) "Bruce"
It's big, it's mean it's really, really green


 
In article <[email protected]>, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> writes
>well, FWIW - the LDV convoy I'm running is standing up to the hammering I
>give it so far. Transit engine and box, which are about the best bits of
>the tranny anyway. Personally, I prefer the old 2.5 engine to the
>newfangled 2.4 which is all electronic.
>
>The SWB convoy is a nice size, too. There are twin-wheel SWBs, such as my
>bus, or single-wheel. The LWB has about 2' more length, I think, maybe a
>tad more.
>
>Also in favour of the convoy are ultra-simple single-leaf suspension with a
>minimum of linkages etc., bloody great solid spring bushes and shackles. In
>fact the whole van is simple and straightforward, and seems reasonably
>solid. the trays under the dash look a bit feeble and may need work to stop
>them shaking apart, but the rest of it is staying put pretty well with about
>10 miles per day of rough unmade road. 'twill be 15 miles, this year...
>
>as a second-hand buy, I'd rate it: you can get a much newer, lower-mileage
>one for yer bucks than you can a transit or merc, 'cos they're not popular -
>but the engine and box is the same as the transit, the rear axle is a nice
>solid lump, the front axle is a big beam with needle-roller kingpins...

Thanks for your response Austin. The LDV sounds like a good honest van.
I've had two Sherpas and before that we used to run those excellent
Austin/Morris LD vans. In fact I still have a 1980 Sherpa aluminium box
'Walk Through' with a rebuilt 1600 cc engine that's not done 5,000
miles. It's been off the road for the last ten years and serves as shed.
Trouble is though I need something with a bit more perceived 'class' for
business presentation purposes as much as practicality, even if it is
more expensive. Despite all the concerns about the current state of VW
cars, I'm almost persuaded that their LT 35 vans are the best compared
to the rest. I'm going to research a bit more with any fleet users I can
find.

cheers
--
John Lubran
 
On or around Wed, 7 Sep 2005 07:14:54 +0100, "Andy.Smalley"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>>> as a second-hand buy, I'd rate it: you can get a much newer, lower-mileage
>>> one for yer bucks than you can a transit or merc, 'cos they're not popular -
>>> but the engine and box is the same as the transit, the rear axle is a nice
>>> solid lump, the front axle is a big beam with needle-roller kingpins...
>>
>>
>> keep the king pins greased and check for lift on a regular basis as
>> they have a tendency to destroy the bottom bearing and bugger the
>> stub axles if not caught in time
>
>
>that should be the bottom thrust bearing between stub and axle
>

aye, I thought you meant that. Better than the old bronze bush kingpins
which you had to ream though.

tellyerwot, you might look into what are the lowest rate rear springs I can
get for it. Mine's de-rated to 8 seats from 13, and the rear springs are
way too hard. It's plated as 3.1T gross; if there are lower-rate rear
springs for lighter vans, I'd be interested, unless they cost a fortune.

I have all the manuals on CD, bought off eBay...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
In Touch: Get in touch with yourself by touching yourself.
If somebody is watching, stop touching yourself.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 

"MVP" <mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
news:eek:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 14:11:59 +0100, "/\\/ / & E"
> <nigel.ince****[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"/\/ / & E" <nigel.ince****[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>
>>Sorted, they are taking it back & we're getting a full refund.
>>
>>God knows what she will do for a car now!
>>
>>Need I ask, she'll be using my Subaru & I'll be using the Land Rover!!
>>
>>Nige

Disco 3, supurb bit of kit. Father has had a Disco 1, 2 (x2) and 3, he
recons the 3 is better than all the others put together. He tried all the
other 4x4s in its class and chose the disco3. In his words "they've put
right everything that was wrong with the others". he's had it since the
beginning of November and aside from some electronic niggles in the first
couple of months (that were quickly sorted), its been great.

Saw the G4 version at Malvern, might be visiting the bank again, very nice
indeed.

Graham


 
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Wed, 7 Sep 2005 07:14:54 +0100, "Andy.Smalley"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>>> as a second-hand buy, I'd rate it: you can get a much newer, lower-mileage
>>>> one for yer bucks than you can a transit or merc, 'cos they're not popular -
>>>> but the engine and box is the same as the transit, the rear axle is a nice
>>>> solid lump, the front axle is a big beam with needle-roller kingpins...
>>>
>>>
>>> keep the king pins greased and check for lift on a regular basis as
>>> they have a tendency to destroy the bottom bearing and bugger the
>>> stub axles if not caught in time
>>
>>
>>that should be the bottom thrust bearing between stub and axle
>>
>
> aye, I thought you meant that. Better than the old bronze bush kingpins
> which you had to ream though.
>
> tellyerwot, you might look into what are the lowest rate rear springs I can
> get for it. Mine's de-rated to 8 seats from 13, and the rear springs are
> way too hard. It's plated as 3.1T gross; if there are lower-rate rear
> springs for lighter vans, I'd be interested, unless they cost a fortune.
>


turns out there was only six different* rear springs fitted dependent
on single or twin wheel and chassis number range these were all
superseded to one spring

*different part numbers anyway
--
Andy

SWB Series 2a ( dressed as a 3) "Bruce"
It's big, it's mean it's really, really green


 
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