Mot failed :(

We5ley · Jun 23, 2012

Just got back from my MOT and dont think its going to be cheap, Failed on ten things, with 3 advisory items, including Heavy corrosion to the complete chassis, new that needed doing at some point but sounding like a job for sooner rather than later.

But for now I just need an mot so i can road tax her and keep it in the street still, I share a house with enough room for one car on a steep incline drive way, and there are 3 cars and my motor bike to park

4 of the failures where just bulbs thou I just ordered two new repeaters for the indicators as they are rusted to death. Think they need more than new bulbs.

And this little lot, I am guessing he took a screw driver to it as they where not like that before..

Any way that's just me moaning, the real question is can you help me find the part for these.

Fuel cap/Sealing device sealing washer missing,

I am guessing my fuel cap needs a washer, It's a C reg 85 defender 90.

Never had one before so not sure what he is looking for also wondering how it passed last time with out one.

Also,

Offside Track rod end ball joint dust cover excessively deteriorated so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt.

Now my question is can I just replace the dust cover, or do I have to replace the whole unit?

Thanks in advance.

ScratchyDom · Jun 23, 2012

We5ley said:
And this little lot, I am guessing he took a screw driver to it as they where not like that before..

As I understand it (from a mate who's an MOT tester) they're not allowed to use anything more substantial than a piece of plastic. Saying that, it looks like you could've done that to your outrigger with yer finger! New outrigger it is then.

We5ley said:
Any way that's just me moaning, the real question is can you help me find the part for these.

Fuel cap/Sealing device sealing washer missing,

I am guessing my fuel cap needs a washer, It's a C reg 85 defender 90.

Just get a locking fuel cap, less than a tenner off-of ebay.

Never had one before so not sure what he is looking for also wondering how it passed last time with out one.

We5ley said:
Offside Track rod end ball joint dust cover excessively deteriorated so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt.

Now my question is can I just replace the dust cover, or do I have to replace the whole unit?

Pro'ly best to replace the whole unit, again not too spensive.

chris mcc · Jun 23, 2012

Ah rt wes? Just pm'd ya.

johns90 · Jun 23, 2012

you can just replace the dust cover on the track rod end.only takes 5 mins and no messing with tracking afterwards. The fuel cap washer might mean a new cap.
Where abouts on the wirral is ya?

We5ley · Jun 23, 2012

Just out side liscard, Thanks for the advice, been rooting round the house trying to find the last one i got of ebay, fuel cap that is, thou i know that does not fit to small. Will have to order some bits for the car i guess.

The place that did the mot, quoted around £250 to weld the out riggers that sound fair?

OLDUN · Jun 23, 2012

To me they need replacing, but if both need doing and they will pass and last a few years seems good deal.

We5ley · Jun 23, 2012

Yep both are prity much as bad as each other, Just been to check on the track rod end I can see what they mean you can see all the braiding.

IMAG0164 by Abhorsen The Final Death, on Flickr

I am guessing all that oil is the, "006 Steering box has significant oil leak", or "007Power steering pump leaking from failed seal", take your pick really

Will just order the whole thing for the track rod, may as well replace it, may even try my self...

Just measured my fuel cap and its 9 cm across, well the gap is with the cap off not the cap it self, is that standard defender size?

As I said the last one i got from ebay said defenders but was two small almost fitted inside the tank it was that small.

bongo1 · Jun 23, 2012

We5ley said:
Just out side liscard, Thanks for the advice, been rooting round the house trying to find the last one i got of ebay, fuel cap that is, thou i know that does not fit to small. Will have to order some bits for the car i guess.

The place that did the mot, quoted around £250 to weld the out riggers that sound fair?

sounds ok , but what about the rest of the chassis + heavy corrosion , is that a fail or advisory

We5ley · Jun 24, 2012

Advisory, but he did take the time to come in and tell me that one in person, thou I knew it needed doing will prob do it next year, not got the cash this year i dont think.

I am guessing this is my fuel pump,

Been looking to get the seals for it, but they all say for the type that has 4 bolts on the top. Is this the type they on about?

Do I want a right hand or left hand screw to replace this, its the drivers side one? (I can never get all that off side near side stuff.)

big si · Jun 24, 2012

that's a 4 bolt box , and thats not a track rod end mate ,that's yer drop arm and it should have a circlip underneath so as to remove and replace it once the top nut is undone.

We5ley · Jun 24, 2012

bigsi13 said:
that's a 4 bolt box , and thats not a track rod end mate ,that's yer drop arm and it should have a circlip underneath so as to remove and replace it once the top nut is undone.

"Offside Track rod end ball joint dust cover excessively deteriorated so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt."

So would that apply to the drop arm, or am I looking at the wrong thing?

gse1986 · Jun 24, 2012

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We5ley said:
"Offside Track rod end ball joint dust cover excessively deteriorated so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt."

So would that apply to the drop arm, or am I looking at the wrong thing?

You're looking at wrong thing (assuming MOT guy was looking at the right thing

)

Track rod is the long rod that goes between the swivel points on each end of the front axle. so you're looking at the drivers side track rod end. Turn your wheel to full lock left, and you will be able to see the track rod end behind your drivers side wheel.

jamesmartin · Jun 24, 2012

drop arm ball joint has poor gaiter ,mot people and mechanics often call them track rod ends as thats what most cars only have with most vehicles using steering rack and not box

captain skellon · Jun 24, 2012

as often as not you will have to take the "rod" off the vehicle to get the ball joints out. change all 3 and use copper slip on the threads when putting them back in. before you take them out measure the distances between the ball joints and count how many turns it takes to remove them so you have a guide for putting it back together. i'm sure they will be a video on youtube or something. those outriggers look like they need replacing not repairing hows the rest of the chassis beecause they look like net curtains. maybe an idea that while your under there clean and paint your chassis but the welding price seems fair as long as it will last you need to weigh it up against future repairs that are possible

We5ley · Jun 24, 2012

Thanks for the advice guys, think i will just do all 3 and give it ago my self. Time to order some more bits of ebay i think.

captain skellon said:
Snip those outriggers look like they need replacing not repairing hows the rest of the chassis beecause they look like net curtains. maybe an idea that while your under there clean and paint your chassis but the welding price seems fair as long as it will last you need to weigh it up against future repairs that are possible

Tbh I need it to last me a year I know it needs doing and this time I think getting by is enough. The chassis needs replacing, with any luck next year should be able to afford it.

discomania · Jun 25, 2012

We5ley said:
Fuel cap/Sealing device sealing washer missing,

I am guessing my fuel cap needs a washer, It's a C reg 85 defender 90.

Never had one before so not sure what he is looking for also wondering how it passed last time with out one.

MOTer sounds like a **** - if you have all the rust I wouldn't have thought it was worth his while to compond matters by adding fuel filler seal! Looking at the picture your landy doesn't slosh fuel down the side so it doesn't look to be critical!

You need a big flat rubber washer thing down in the cap. Also, does your cap lock? I'd just lock it and only leave the ignition key.

We5ley · Jun 25, 2012

discomania said:
MOTer sounds like a **** - if you have all the rust I wouldn't have thought it was worth his while to compond matters by adding fuel filler seal! Looking at the picture your landy doesn't slosh fuel down the side so it doesn't look to be critical!

You need a big flat rubber washer thing down in the cap. Also, does your cap lock? I'd just lock it and only leave the ignition key.

hehe, no it does not lock, tbh suprised locals have not worked that out yet and tried to nick some fuel, but i tend to keep her low just in case.

Diesel Do · Jun 25, 2012

discomania said:
MOTer sounds like a **** - if you have all the rust I wouldn't have thought it was worth his while to compond matters by adding fuel filler seal! Looking at the picture your landy doesn't slosh fuel down the side so it doesn't look to be critical!

You need a big flat rubber washer thing down in the cap. Also, does your cap lock? I'd just lock it and only leave the ignition key.

If memory serve me correctly (it's been a while). If you can't check the fuel cap it's a reason for refusal to test! It's a pretest thing you're meant to do before you put the car on the ramp. So you may end up not even tested never mind failed!

chris mcc · Jun 25, 2012

Where did you take it for mot wes? My mates got a mot station in birkenhead if you need any advice mate.

We5ley · Jun 25, 2012

Crane Bank Garages Ltd Wallasey‏

Cranebank Garages - MOT's, Service and Repairs

Tbh they where grate when i needed my ring gear doing, was £300 and they steam cleaned the engine bay and engine for free, while they had the engine out.

Thats prob the only reason you could tell it was leaking before that it had 25 years of oil and greasse all over it, infact if they had not cleaned it doubt you would have been able to tell anything was leaking.

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