freelander towing caravan

timtheenchanteruk said:

They don't, doesn't mean its sensible to do it though. theres more than just the fender that can tow 3.5T, disco can too IRC, as can the older Kia Sedona.

Id be wary of any situation where the tail can wag the dog.
im also aware the fender can tow alot more than 3.5T if it has a different brake system installed etc, etc, thats a different ketle of fish.

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So your saying anyone with a IFOR williams trailer rated at 3500kg isnt sensible to tow it fully loaded with a landrover?

Soon as you put a minidigger plus a couple of buckets on the trailer you are quickly up to 3500kg and their are hundreds of people running like that safely.

With the weights of caravans now i would much rather tow a double axle 1800kg van with a freelander than a 1500kg single axle. To a certain extent no matter how much the car ways in relation to the caravan if you get a snake on or involved in an accident that swinging trailer will soon pull the car round even if the car is heavier. Obviouisly less likely to happen the bigger the weight difference between the car and the trailer but still happens when trailers weight less than towing vehicle.

it may book at 2080kg but mine actually weighs 1435kg

timtheenchanteruk said:

is that your calculated figure, or the book figure, many vehicles have a train weight less than the max tow + gross weight, hence my question.

trailer not weighing more than car is not a caravan club guideline, the 85% rule is.

the quick "what can I tow" for B+E gives the answer
"You can already tow any trailers with a car as long as the weight of the fully loaded trailer isn’t more than the unladen vehicle weight."

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Landrover's own data specs for Freelander weights. The kerb weight of the vehicle is only relevant if you are towing with just B entitlement on your licence. If you have B+E, then the kerb weight of the towing vehicle is irrelevant.

Freelaner said:

it may book at 2080kg but mine actually weighs 1435kg

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2080KG is max gross weight, 1435KG is kerb weight.

martin1512 said:

2080KG is max gross weight, 1435KG is kerb weight.

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Ah ok

Caravan instability has very little to do with the weight difference between towing vehicle and trailer, as long as you are within manufacturers limits. A poorly loaded trailer that is still lighter than the tow vehicle is more likely to become unstable than a correctly loaded trailer that is heavier than the tow vehicle. The same applies to the tow vehicle itself, many people don't realise that a poorly loaded tow vehicle can be just as bad as a poorly loaded trailer. Too much, or not enough weight on either axle of the tow vehicle or trailer will cause problems.

timtheenchanteruk said:

They don't, doesn't mean its sensible to do it though. theres more than just the fender that can tow 3.5T, disco can too IRC, as can the older Kia Sedona.

Id be wary of any situation where the tail can wag the dog.
im also aware the fender can tow alot more than 3.5T if it has a different brake system installed etc, etc, thats a different ketle of fish.

I still dont know the book train weight, so the FL may be able to tow the FL, but can you then put owt in the FL?? I had a pug 406, it would pull 1.5T, but if you loaded the car to its gross, only 1.2T.

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All towing situations the tail can wag the dog. Length of trailer also adds leverage ino the equation. And the 85% thing isnt a rule, the max towing weight is.

Many thanks guys,appreciate the info re weights but I would like to know if the V6 would be ok pulling the weight

Yogi65bear said:

Many thanks guys,appreciate the info re weights but I would like to know if the V6 would be ok pulling the weight

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Ok as in legal yes. Ok as in wear n tear yes but it'll increase as with any weight towed. Mpg will go to **** too. Will it win the traffic light grand prix-nope. Soz.

goonarmy said:

Ok as in legal yes. Ok as in wear n tear yes but it'll increase as with any weight towed. Mpg will go to **** too. Will it win the traffic light grand prix-nope. Soz.

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Thanks mate mpg is **** anyway not bothered 'but t/lights think of tortoise and hare
Get an I pad much better

The jatco box in the freelander is quite atough box , but heat is the killer of any auto tranny , fitting an extra trans cooler will certainly help take the heat load partly out of the heat exchanger and therfore the cooling system . You will be operating at the upper end of the Freelanders limits . If its infrequently then not so bad , but if you are an every other weekend type of caravanner I would look for something a bit more robust eg disco RR or defender . JMHO

once box has achieved lock up it shouldnt produce much heat

tacr2man said:

The jatco box in the freelander is quite atough box , but heat is the killer of any auto tranny , fitting an extra trans cooler will certainly help take the heat load partly out of the heat exchanger and therfore the cooling system . You will be operating at the upper end of the Freelanders limits . If its infrequently then not so bad , but if you are an every other weekend type of caravanner I would look for something a bit more robust eg disco RR or defender . JMHO

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Many thanks for the advice will take on board I will only use the caravan for hols
As I use a 650 kg box trailer at week-ends

jamesmartin said:

once box has achieved lock up it shouldnt produce much heat

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Thanks for your reply, sorry what do you mean by lock up?

The torque converter locks. Prior to that its just a "slipping" clutch.

Yogi65bear said:

Thanks for your reply, sorry what do you mean by lock up?

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theres a cutch in t/c that engages to lock t/c so that it no longer is using oil at high pressure and speed to drive a rotor to give drive ,feels like top gear engaging, before that when oil is the medium for drive a byproduct is heat

Many thanks guys