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i just changed the dam springs to heavy duty now i got to change erm again?
as for the anti roll bars there all twisted after bures so there on there way out

Discodad said:

Standard length shocks?
Anti roll bar still fitted?

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no well yes anti roll bar is still on but well twisted after bures so its next on list to come off
shocks n spring +2 inch terrafima

Heavy duty springs are for towing, you want soft springs for maximum articulation.
Cranked arms wouldn't go a miss either.

Dirtneewbie said:

i just changed the dam springs to heavy duty now i got to change erm again?
as for the anti roll bars there all twisted after bures so there on there way out

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The HD springs will resist compressing which will stop the other side of the axle dropping.
And the ARB will definitely stop the axle dropping.
What length shocks do you have? Standard length will stop the axle from dropping. You could look at lowering the shock mount and fitting longer shocks (+2" or even +5"), then your prop will need upgrading. Just depends on how far you want to go.

You beat me

Dirtneewbie said:

i just changed the dam springs to heavy duty now i got to change erm again?
as for the anti roll bars there all twisted after bures so there on there way out

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Don't think you need to change your springs,I have heavy duty springs. you could lose the anti roll bars but that will affect on road handling, its always a compromise between road miles and play miles, what do you do more of.

i would sooner have the truck set up for as best off road as i can
so looking now to remove ARB and yet again change shocks n springs
had a issue with rear spring sunday jumped out twice.
Chris i have the rear arms cranked
just fronts todo
but after seeing Mikeys go up the same hill climb in the pics he posted he is climbing up the hill i was more jumping from one rut to the next with wheels in the air

Dirtneewbie said:

i would sooner have the truck set up for as best off road as i can
so looking now to remove ARB and yet again change shocks n springs
had a issue with rear spring sunday jumped out twice.
Chris i have the rear arms cranked
just fronts todo
but after seeing Mikeys go up the same hill climb in the pics he posted he is climbing up the hill i was more jumping from one rut to the next with wheels in the air

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I would do a lot of reading before you part with anymore hard earned money.
And work out what you want from the disco. You can go to far:

2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY TD5 S BLUE MONSTER TRUCK ADVERTISING VEHCILE | eBay

I personally regret getting the disco as I never brought it for an offroader, not saying they are not capable because they are. But ES electric and water....
I've spent a lot and I'm now trying to work out how to fund a fender.

Found this photo on the cambsoffroading.co.uk website

Shows how it can work.

Discodad said:

I would do a lot of reading before you part with anymore hard earned money.
And work out what you want from the disco. You can go to far:

2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY TD5 S BLUE MONSTER TRUCK ADVERTISING VEHCILE | eBay

I personally regret getting the disco as I never brought it for an offroader, not saying they are not capable because they are. But ES electric and water....
I've spent a lot and I'm now trying to work out how to fund a fender.

Found this photo on the cambsoffroading.co.uk website

Shows how it can work.

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I don't know, I'm well happy with my disco, I have spent out and got a good suspension setup on mine, springs, mounts, arms, prop e.t.c and it's easily as capable as the defenders, ok the weight doesn't help but for the comfort it's worth it, suppose it justifies having it a bit more the fact it has 5 seats and some creature comforts. I'm already thinking of a 3 door off roader...

Disco are good at offroading, I find my main limitations when going up against 90's was the overhang. Hence why I was going to bobtail mine and body lift it to fit 35's.
Can't do it as I want to build my track car and truth be told if I decide to get another 4x4 I will probably pick up a 90 that's already had the hard work done.
However I still maintain as a road car and greenlaner the Disco is better.

Dirtneewbie said:

had a issue with rear spring sunday jumped out twice.
Chris i have the rear arms cranked

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The spring pop's out but don't go back in easy.
The cranked arms are letting up drop out but the shock is stopping it, as it needs to be longer.
What you need is +2" higher mounts & +5" shocks with axle dislocation cones, that's the best way to go. The axle can go up but not bottom out on the shock & will drop out with out the spring jamming as it try's to seat again.

Then it's the same with the front.

Don't get me wrong I love my disco. I nearly broke it earlier this year but we had a faultless trip to the lakes and some great laning in the snow.
Comfortably 6 hour drive and then a capable offroader when we get there!
I just couldn't break it after that.

What i was suggesting is if it's just as offroader your after then make sure the base vehicle is the right choice.

Dirtneewbie said:

i would sooner have the truck set up for as best off road as i can /QUOTE]

In which case a 5 door disco would not be my choice, particularly an es.
If it were a disco I would want a 3 door with minimal electrics, I just didn't know what I wanted when I brought mine. TBH I have no idea what I want yet, I think with what I want out of a Landy I'll end up with two

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Discodad said:

I just didn't know what I wanted when I brought mine. TBH I have no idea what I want yet, I think with what I want out of a Landy I'll end up with two

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Just like me.
One for the wife, kid's & dog's & the other for me.
Less is more. No electric's to go wrong & less steel to rust.

I don't regret sticking with discovery's and will always buy an ES as I love having the leather and toys.
This one was underwater half way up the screen in the floods and the only issue has been a temp gauge stuck at maximum.
With a lift and a decent set of AT tyres I get the road comfort I need and find it capable enough off road for me and my family.
I am quite happy enough watching trucks like Mikeys climbing the difficult stuff and carrying on to do the bits I know I can do.
John, if it's your desire just to follow Mikey everywhere then a defender should have been your choice.
As people have stated you can set up your disco as extreme as you want but it's all about how much you are willing to spend doing it.

666 george said:

The spring pop's out but don't go back in easy.
The cranked arms are letting up drop out but the shock is stopping it, as it needs to be longer.
What you need is +2" higher mounts & +5" shocks with axle dislocation cones, that's the best way to go. The axle can go up but not bottom out on the shock & will drop out with out the spring jamming as it try's to seat again.

Then it's the same with the front.

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This is the amount of droop im getting, its actually about another inch or two over this as I was still on the floor:



Thats with +2" springs and -3" Mounts, it has made so much difference when off roading, got much better traction everywhere...

This is a pic of mine its more a case of getting a well balanced setup, the front articulation is just as important as the rear and is often overlooked.

When i specced my suspension i took it to a weigh bridge and weighed the front and rear, then chose my springs by the spring weights, i then lifted the back completely off the ground with no springs and shocks on and moved the suspension to the maximum articulation point then took measurements and made the shock mounts and measured bump stop heights.

same was done for the front with one bolt removed from the radius arms to get free articulation, until it is 3 linked it will never articulate as well as the rear due to the twisting moments in the axle due to the radius arm design.

rear springs are +3 inch range rover classic standard weight front springs and front springs are standard weight disco 1 +3 front springs, with +5 shocks all round.

You and that forklift lol

Well get your orders in people

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f59/breaking-offroad-specd-discovery-1-300tdi-187752.html

Brian S said:

I don't regret sticking with discovery's and will always buy an ES as I love having the leather and toys.
This one was underwater half way up the screen in the floods and the only issue has been a temp gauge stuck at maximum.
With a lift and a decent set of AT tyres I get the road comfort I need and find it capable enough off road for me and my family.
I am quite happy enough watching trucks like Mikeys climbing the difficult stuff and carrying on to do the bits I know I can do.
John, if it's your desire just to follow Mikey everywhere then a defender should have been your choice.
As people have stated you can set up your disco as extreme as you want but it's all about how much you are willing to spend doing it.

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No Brian you got me wrong its not my desire to follow Mikey everwhere just found out the limits of the current suspension set up very early on
and found it a bit of a hinderance... Yes a defender would have been better but i too like the leather n toys while it is on the road but when i get to plat time i want it to do what i want to not what the truck can do i have gone to far with the Disco to part with it at the mo so will have to change the set up.

John - do i spy new rims?