EKA codes, Bleeps and Key Lockouts!?! 1996 P38 2.5DSE.

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B16FUN

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Good evening guys and gals,

Now before anyone jumps up and down all over me because this topic has come up numerous times, I know, I've read countless threads on these subjects using the search function but I want to clarify something if I may.

When you are about to enter the EKA code and you do the four left turns with the key and get a single bleep, then enter the code, am I right in thinking you get a double bleep at the end once the code is accepted?

I've recently changed the engine for one from a BMW E36 325 TDS (changing the top of the FIP to the Range Rover one) and with other commitments it's taken me a few months to do the whole thing.
During that time I had the battery removed. I've now got everything ready to start the engine for the first time since fitting it. I charged the battery up completely as I'd read about poorly charged batteries throwing up error codes. I'd read up about the EKA code, spoke to the local dealership to obtain the code as it was missing from the owners manual, I found out the master/universal code of 1515 too just in case the code I was given didn't work.

So I tried the dealership code, didn't seem to work, tried the universal code, got the initial bleep and then after the code a double bleep - assuming that this means code accepted. So I thought game on, key into the ignition, turned it up to the point of ignition, all the blend motors and everything else started whirring, everything came on on the dash (normal error codes for windows, etc), glow plug light goes out and then we're go for launch....... nothing. just a click but the engine doesn;t even turn over.

So, puzzled by this I took the battery off for 10 mins to go through the procedure again but this time the car bleeped as soon as I put the battery on, then everytime I turned the key in the door lock it just blleped, I couldn't get it to prep for the EKA code and the dash just said Key Code Lockout. Opened the drivers door to pop the bonnet and the alarm went off. Took the battery off again for longer this time and managed to get it to take the code (I think asuming the double bleep means code accepted) but again all systems go but nothing on the turn of the key, just a click but nothing else, no attempt to turn the engine over or anything.

Any thoughts or advise would be extremely appreciated as I'm stuck and at a loss as to what might be wrong.

Cheers,

Andy. :confused:
 
I will be doing that of course but I wanted to make sure that once the EKA code has been inputted that you get a double bleep to show it is accepted and at the same time I thought it would be wprth getting any other suggestions in case the starter motor wiring turns out to be correct as the cars is away from my home and I don't want to come to a loss and have to head home to ask for any more advice on here before heading back, if you understand what I mean, a case of killing two birds with one stone as it were.
Cheers,
Andy.
 
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Good evening guys and gals,

Now before anyone jumps up and down all over me because this topic has come up numerous times, I know, I've read countless threads on these subjects using the search function but I want to clarify something if I may.

When you are about to enter the EKA code and you do the four left turns with the key and get a single bleep, then enter the code, am I right in thinking you get a double bleep at the end once the code is accepted?

I've recently changed the engine for one from a BMW E36 325 TDS (changing the top of the FIP to the Range Rover one) and with other commitments it's taken me a few months to do the whole thing.
During that time I had the battery removed. I've now got everything ready to start the engine for the first time since fitting it. I charged the battery up completely as I'd read about poorly charged batteries throwing up error codes. I'd read up about the EKA code, spoke to the local dealership to obtain the code as it was missing from the owners manual, I found out the master/universal code of 1515 too just in case the code I was given didn't work.

So I tried the dealership code, didn't seem to work, tried the universal code, got the initial bleep and then after the code a double bleep - assuming that this means code accepted. So I thought game on, key into the ignition, turned it up to the point of ignition, all the blend motors and everything else started whirring, everything came on on the dash (normal error codes for windows, etc), glow plug light goes out and then we're go for launch....... nothing. just a click but the engine doesn;t even turn over.

So, puzzled by this I took the battery off for 10 mins to go through the procedure again but this time the car bleeped as soon as I put the battery on, then everytime I turned the key in the door lock it just blleped, I couldn't get it to prep for the EKA code and the dash just said Key Code Lockout. Opened the drivers door to pop the bonnet and the alarm went off. Took the battery off again for longer this time and managed to get it to take the code (I think asuming the double bleep means code accepted) but again all systems go but nothing on the turn of the key, just a click but nothing else, no attempt to turn the engine over or anything.

Any thoughts or advise would be extremely appreciated as I'm stuck and at a loss as to what might be wrong.

Cheers,

Andy. :confused:

Try entering the EKA code without the four initial turns.The early P38,s did not require this.Mine is a 1995 and I do not do the four turns before entering the EKA code.:cool:
 
No worries, I'm in Stockport, just south of Manchester. I did try it without the four initial turns but it didn't give me anything either way so i think mine is just on the turn being a 1996 model, I read on here that it was sometime in 96 that they changed.
Thanks for the replies so far guys, much appreciated!
Andy.
 
Right, Firstly, there's no such thing as a universal EKA code. I don't know whoever first brought that up, but it doesn't exist.
2nd, it's not a resync that is required as the engine would turn over but not fire if this was the case.
My experiance tells me that your becm has shut down. If the code that the dealer gave you isn't working then you will need to remove the becm & get that sorted out.

For reference, to initiate the EKA procedure it is four turns to the back of the vehicle.
 
Right, Firstly, there's no such thing as a universal EKA code. I don't know whoever first brought that up, but it doesn't exist.
2nd, it's not a resync that is required as the engine would turn over but not fire if this was the case.
My experiance tells me that your becm has shut down. If the code that the dealer gave you isn't working then you will need to remove the becm & get that sorted out.

For reference, to initiate the EKA procedure it is four turns to the back of the vehicle.[/quote

:behindsofa:

I agree 100%....The "1515" originated from an article on www.rangerovers.net posted by one of our American cousins some years ago.
Most of the U.S. Becm's have the EKA function disabled in the settings.
I believe that the author of that post followed an "Urban Myth" that a universal code existed, which it does not.
I can fully understand that in a situation like this that people will try anything to try and get sorted but it has to be remembered that where the EKA is enabled, the Becm is looking for the same code to be entered as is programmed into it.
I ask people if they want the code changed to a low number, e.g. 1212....the reason for this is that you wouldn't fancy standing in the rain putting in 6789 etc. !!!!...plus it's an easy number to remember. It is not recommended to have all four digits the same (1111 etc.) and of course, you can't have a zero in the code.
I concur with Rick that it has "Frozen"

Rick is based on the South Coast near Brighton.
 
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Ok, could someone please confirm the following, when you prepare the car to have the EKA entered by doing the four left turns of the lock that the vehicle with give you a single alarm bleep. You then enter your code finishing with the single turn to the right, essentially unlocking the door/car. When you have entered a correct EKA code do you get a double bleep from the alarm to show that it has been accepted?

If this is the case then when I entered the EKA provided from the dealership I do not get the double bleep at the end whilst when I use the now mythical 1515 code and do the final turn to the right, unlocking the door, I do get a double bleep.

I'm in Stockport, just south of Manchester, is there anyone around who may be able to help me with the unlocking of the becm should I need it???

Thanks for all the replies.

Andy.
 
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