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p76rangie said:
Again you comment on things that you know nothing about. The subsidies, government handouts, and income of aboriginals are 10 times higher than whites in your or this country.
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Hang on....i'm white...are you saying that aboriginals in australia earn 10 times more than me? Blimey!!!! Now, i'll be careful here cos i earn a good living...but are you saying i could be a millionaire within 2 years if i was an aboriginal?
 
storm99 said:
I suggest you look at your history, my comment was nothing to do with handouts or benefits...i'd like to see some figures to back up your claims though...in the meantime, look at this you blinkered bigot.


Answers.com - How and why were Aboriginal children removed from their families
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How is this different from the UK
Prevalence and incidence of child abuse and neglect | NSPCC statistics
http://www.thefca.co.uk/fostering-information/why-do-children-need-foster-care
 
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storm99 said:
Hang on....i'm white...are you saying that aboriginals in australia earn 10 times more than me? Blimey!!!! Now, i'll be careful here cos i earn a good living...but are you saying i could be a millionaire within 2 years if i was an aboriginal?
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Maybe you should look at a map of Australia that has all the land owned by Aboriginals on it. You may also want to look at who owns the land of most mining developments and who gets very large royalties from that mining. Also look at how much is spent on public housing for aboriginals compared to the rest of the population, etc, etc, etc. And yes there are a number of aboriginal communities out there that where each family unit would be worth more than you and do not have to work for it.
 
p76rangie said:
Maybe you should look at a map of Australia that has all the land owned by Aboriginals on it. You may also want to look at who owns the land of most mining developments and who gets very large royalties from that mining. Also look at how much is spent on public housing for aboriginals compared to the rest of the population, etc, etc, etc. And yes there are a number of aboriginal communities out there that where each family unit would be worth more than you and do not have to work for it.
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ONLY after enough Aussie folk made enough noise to force your government to make some effort at reparation for generations of murder, forced relocation, kidnapping.....and thats just the offically sanctioned stuff.....let alone everyday bigotry and abuse from people who somehow think a persons worth and ability to suffer is defined by their skin colour. :mad::mad:

**** off and go and set up your own forum....this one works fine and doesn't need another arsehole demanding the mods jump to attention because they want to be noticed
 
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blue beasty said:
Are you seriously suggesting the 'stolen generation' were taken from their families for their own protection? Are you a holocaust denier as well? :doh:

You complete superating bellend.........
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Are you seriously attempting to compare the event to the holocaust?
And yes, that is exactly why they were taken from their families. And if you do a search on more recent events, you will find a recent Government intervention that is again aimed at prevention of aboriginal child abuse and neglect. If both instances there are many claiming that the method is inappropriate and many that support it.
 
blue beasty said:
ONLY after enough Aussie folk made enough noise to force your government to make some effort at reparation for generations of murder, forced relocation, kidnapping.....and thats just the offically sanctioned stuff.....let alone everyday bigotry and abuse from people who somehow think a persons worth and ability to suffer is defined by their skin colour. :mad::mad:
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Where do you get this stuff from? Do you believe all the conspiracy theories?

I am all for treating people as people and not based on skin colour. So I will be very happy when whites in this country have access to the same benefits as aboriginals.

Look at all the links in this site for benefits only allow to aboriginals and then try to find a single benefit that is only available to whites.
Links to Comonwealth government indigenous programs - The Aboriginal Benefits Foundation

Aboriginals can travel anywhere in Australia freely. There are large parts of Australia I am not allow to travel on public roads without a permit due to being non-aboriginal.

Go back and do some actual research before posting next time.
 
p76rangie said:
Are you seriously attempting to compare the event to the holocaust?
And yes, that is exactly why they were taken from their families. And if you do a search on more recent events, you will find a recent Government intervention that is again aimed at prevention of aboriginal child abuse and neglect. If both instances there are many claiming that the method is inappropriate and many that support it.
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pull your head out your arse and have a proper look at the history of your country......not the version you read in whatever the equivilent is of the daily mail.
Ignorence of your history makes you look stupid.......Denial of it makes you look like an evil bastard.
In post 1 you made a sensible suggestion which makes me think your not stupid............

I'm off to bed so post whatever drivel you like
 
blue beasty said:
pull your head out your arse and have a proper look at the history of your country......not the version you read in whatever the equivilent is of the daily mail.
Ignorence of your history makes you look stupid.......Denial of it makes you look like an evil bastard.
In post 1 you made a sensible suggestion which makes me think your not stupid............

I'm off to bed so post whatever drivel you like
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You obviously know our history better than we do, even though you don't seem to be able to back it up with much. But this is what happens with such threads, when people have nothing constructive to say they try and divert the discussion. So far we have had cricket, then things you can do to a koala and now aboriginals.

My challenge is simple for you, find one thing a white Australian is entitled to that is not available to an aboriginal. I have listed many that works in the opposite direction.

At this point in time you have 60,000 children in the UK taken from their parents and placed in foster care. When the same occurs for aboriginal children you think it is solely based on race and evil. We are not Hollywood movie stars and do not collect coloured children as a social accessory.

You could try reading this for a start and this is now and it was a lot worse back in the 60's and 70's that you want to focus on.
Child protection and Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Children - Resource Sheet - National Child Protection Clearinghouse
 
Just an attempt to get this thread back on track. 10% of threads do not get a response in the Rangie section. Only between 60 and 70 people look at any thread out of a membership claimed to be 62,000. The average number of replies to a thread is 7, with 182 views (includes multiple views by one person).
So if only 0.1% of members are looking at any particular thread and 10% of people seeking answers do not get them, how can you claim that the system is working fine.

You claim that it is the biggest forums in the UK and I have no doubt that this is true. This was the basis of my suggestion as there are too many posts in 1 day to go through them all to see if you can help the person. The statistics show that this is true with so many threads not getting a response.

I do not claim to know much about P38's, L322's, D3 or D4's. But I have had 6 Range Rover Classics (currently own 2), one d1 (currently wife's car) and 5 Series Land Rovers. I have been driving them since a series 2a was the current model and been modifying them for a couple of decades (you can see a few trips if you search my user id on youtube). I have done a lot of things that do not work and like helping people avoid making the same costly mistakes. Sometimes the discussions get me to look at things in a different light and are useful to me, but I am not the one asking/or looking for the answers to questions.

So if you want to help those 10% plus of members that are not currently getting it, or you wish to get the other 99.9% of members involved with the forum, maybe you can make it easier for members to navigate to areas of interest/expertise.
 
The Mad Hat Man said:
Reverting back to subject.....
P76...
You are in Australia - right?
You have a rangie - right?
Yu would like the rangie forum to be sub divided - right?
Yu state that there are very few replies on here in the rangie section - right?

May I, respectfully, suggest yu use Range Rover - Australian Land Rover Owners
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Why do your replies keep on saying the same thing. "Do it our way or leave"

Obviously you did not bother to read my last post. If I wanted an answer to a Rangie issue, a forum would be the last place I would look. I have a lot better resources that can usually provide the answers I need.

However, there are a lot of people out there who use the forums to get help. The harder you make it for answers to be given the less help people will get. As already stated, 10% of threads in the Rangie section do not even get a reply and on average only 0.1% of members bother to look at them. So the current system does not work as well as it can. But heaven forbid someone suggest a change that may help this. All you get is abuse or "take it or leave". Nice friendly lot.
 
p76rangie said:
If I wanted an answer to a Rangie issue, a forum would be the last place I would look.
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Sorry. I misunderstood. I thought yu wanted to improve the chances of getting an answer on the forum, but yu don't think a forum is the best place to get answers? In fact you think a forum is "the last place I would look". So it's not a place for replies? So it doesn't matter if there are no replies? Not only that, but you don't use it? So you are just a **** stirrer, with no interest in the result?
You have made your point, the owners don't seem a bit interested, so why don't you just shut up?
Your posting has become totally meaningless. You are just a troll.
 
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The Mad Hat Man said:
Sorry. I misunderstood. I thought yu wanted to improve the chances of getting an answer on the forum, but yu don't think a forum is the best place to get answers? In fact you think a forum is "the last place I would look". So it's not a place for replies? So it doesn't matter if there are no replies? Not only that, but you don't use it? So you are just a **** stirrer, with no interest in the result?
You have made your point, the owners don't seem a bit interested, so why don't you just shut up?
Your posting has become totally meaningless. You are just a troll.
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Are you a complete idiot. Try reading my posts instead of continually attempting to pick a fight.

and you answered my other question. The owners do not give a **** about improving the site or responding to members. This section of the site is just a get it off your chest area and is completely ignored.

I did not think it was a site ran by Land Rover enthusiasts for enthusiasts, but needed to make sure. Or maybe its just the pommy arrogance I came across all the time.

But of course you are a Land Rover enthusiasts with your freelander and your bobtail disco. Nearly forgot, you owned a series vehicle once. It appears that you don't even like them when you state that your dream land rover is "one that is reliable". Maybe you should ask a few questions about maintenance rather than attacking people.

Obviously you have a lot of spare time with your number of posts, but I do not for your ****. So see ya.
 
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p76rangie said:
Are you a complete idiot. Try reading my posts instead of continually attempting to pick a fight.

and you answered my other question. The owners do not give a **** about improving the site or responding to members. This section of the site is just a get it off your chest area and is completely ignored.

I did not think it was a site ran by Land Rover enthusiasts for enthusiasts, but needed to make sure. Or maybe its just the pommy arrogance I came across all the time.

But of course you are a Land Rover enthusiasts with your freelander and your bobtail disco. Nearly forgot, you owned a series vehicle once.
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Really thought you had a good point at the start of the thread .......

However

Pick yr feckin dummy back up and stop wingin. Thought you lot said we winge :D :D :D
 
p76rangie said:
Are you a complete idiot. Try reading my posts instead of continually attempting to pick a fight.
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I have read your posts - the original post was valid, and I have said so, but I am confused by your sebsequent dummy throwing when your idea is not pounced apon as the savour to a failing forum.

p76rangie said:
and you answered my other question. The owners do not give a **** about improving the site or responding to members. This section of the site is just a get it off your chest area and is completely ignored.
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Maybe they do, maybe not, but as its their forum, not yours or mine, that is their perogative - live with it.

p76rangie said:
But of course you are a Land Rover enthusiasts with your freelander and your bobtail disco. Nearly forgot, you owned a series vehicle once. It appears that you don't even like them when you state that your dream land rover is "one that is reliable". Maybe you should ask a few questions about maintenance rather than attacking people.
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That sounds more like a personal comment rather than a reasoned arguement.

p76rangie said:
I did not think it was a site ran by Land Rover enthusiasts for enthusiasts, but needed to make sure. Or maybe its just the pommy arrogance I came across all the time.
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So you had pre-formed ideas of what this forum was?
I am amazed that you perport to be justifying a reasoned and well thought out improvement, rather than just Trolling. How do you think you point is going to be considered in a more reasoned perspective when you make comments such as " Or maybe its just the pommy arrogance I came across all the time."?
If I went on to AULRO and said they were all a bunch of no-gooders and jailbirds, i wouldnt expect to be greeted with open arms :rolleyes: - neither should you, when the roles are reversed.

I gave you the benefit of my time, my experience and my good wishes, but I have found that you, sir, are just a Troll, just trying to pick a fight, and are not worth any further time or effort.
 
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