Aaarggh! My friend at my yard says her friend tows her horse with a pink BMW convertible. It looks so cool apparently.
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is it one of the pink special edition Ifor 505s
Why dont they just go the whole way and buy a pink Katie Price horsebox
Would you tow up to your vehicle limit
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Possibly the fact that the MAM on most two horse trailers is about 2.5 tonnes. The nose weight of the trailer is also considerable.
I doubt this Audi is rated for 2.5 tonnes. I also doubt its rear suspension is happy with that kind of weight. Basically they were not designed for this. Gearing is probably too high as well.
And my question orginally is not whether its legal, its whether its safe, not the same thing at all.
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Towing weights & the law
I wouldn't want to tow horses without 4x4 and with plenty of spare capacity too. I don't think cars are up to the job...maybe some can squeeze into the legal limit, but they are still not up to the job, especially in difficult conditions.
I wouldn't want to tow horses without 4x4 and with plenty of spare capacity too. I don't think cars are up to the job...maybe some can squeeze into the legal limit, but they are still not up to the job, especially in difficult conditions.
Only car I have ever towed horses with was 30 years ago, the old Volvo Estates with a Rice Farmer Hunt
Those old Volvos were fantastic cars, you could get 8 bales of hay or straw in them, more than a van. Didn't do the carpets much good though
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Only car I have ever towed horses with was 30 years ago, the old Volvo Estates with a Rice Farmer Hunt
Lol! Polly's trailer is an old Rice Hunter. It's practically an antique but in fab order, like new, they don't make them like that anymore, built to last although it's had a new floor, brakes, electrics and paint job! It tows lovely. Anyhoo for my Disco it's like towing a skin off a rice pudding, too easy
Lol! Polly's trailer is an old Rice Hunter. It's practically an antique but in fab order, like new, they don't make them like that anymore, built to last although it's had a new floor, brakes, electrics and paint job! It tows lovely. Anyhoo for my Disco it's like towing a skin off a rice pudding, too easy
I always had Rice trailers until I bought the stupid tall stressy warmblood. Her ears were on the roof so I had to buy a 510. New they are more expensive than the Ifors and certainly built to last, I like the solid partitions.
I used to enjoy spending a weekend every few years re-wiring and putting new floors in. Coat of paint and you had a new trailer. Apart from them changing from the Landy axles to the Avonride and the new tow hitches you wouldn't know the difference between a 40 year old one and a relatively new one.
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I painted mine black and silver this year to match silverlandy. It takes 2 x 14.2 max but I only ever put polly in it, she's a 14.2 MW Irish cob so I think that's plenty for her little trailer, it could take one larger horse if I took the partition out but I'd have to cut a hole in the roof
I painted mine black and silver this year to match silverlandy. It takes 2 x 14.2 max but I only ever put polly in it, she's a 14.2 MW Irish cob so I think that's plenty for her little trailer, it could take one larger horse if I took the partition out but I'd have to cut a hole in the roof
LOL, have you seen the American ones, they dont have roof to start with. Would worry about them jumping out.
I bought a new 510 a few years ago, Red to match my Disco. Sold the Disco and bought a Blue Defender now
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LOL, have you seen the American ones, they dont have roof to start with. Would worry about them jumping out.
I bought a new 510 a few years ago, Red to match my Disco. Sold the Disco and bought a Blue Defender now
Omg! Poor horses would need goggles like Biggles
Reckon you need to get a blue ifor now then
although you can change the panels in the ifor...probably not worth the expense though!
The main reason I have the 110 is to tow the horse trailer. Before now I have towed with a citroen 1.9 diesel. It managed the pull but if the nag decided to have a wiggle around in the trailer you sure felt it. In the 110 the beast can break dance and it still feels solid.
I did look at some of the other 4x4's but most of them had too low a limit which made me nervous. The only time I have ever had a trailer waggle the car was on the motorway and it was behind a car and really not a pleasant feeling.
So from all (and to get to the point) don't look at the theoretical limit the manufacturer tells you and use something that is made for the job
I did look at some of the other 4x4's but most of them had too low a limit which made me nervous. The only time I have ever had a trailer waggle the car was on the motorway and it was behind a car and really not a pleasant feeling.
So from all (and to get to the point) don't look at the theoretical limit the manufacturer tells you and use something that is made for the job
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The main reason I have the 110 is to tow the horse trailer. Before now I have towed with a citroen 1.9 diesel. It managed the pull but if the nag decided to have a wiggle around in the trailer you sure felt it. In the 110 the beast can break dance and it still feels solid.
I did look at some of the other 4x4's but most of them had too low a limit which made me nervous. The only time I have ever had a trailer waggle the car was on the motorway and it was behind a car and really not a pleasant feeling.
So from all (and to get to the point) don't look at the theoretical limit the manufacturer tells you and use something that is made for the job
Exactly.
When I take my ponio to Stowmarket or Newmarket I have to endure the A14 - main route from Felixstowe docks and the HGVs overtaking me is constant...you can feel them suck the trailer as they go past, it's not particularly pleasant, you can feel the movement of the trailer as they overtake, sometimes 3 lorries at a time. Definitely wouldn't be wanting to be towing with a car!
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silverlandy when i started caravaning twenty years back my grancha told me if you see a lorry in your mirror pull out close to white line seperating lanes then when wagon is on your arse pull back to nearside. The wagon will go wide and you pulling back to near side creates more distance between you less suction and side draft. Hope this helps.
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Thanks I'll try that next time! If I hit the a14 at the wrong time I'm surrounded by hgv's! Pony couldn't give a hoot, sometimes they are in front, behind and beside us at the same time lol!! Have to say the guys in the lorries invariably give me loads of room as I trundle along but at the end of the day they are a lot bigger than me and have plenty of suck n draw
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Just want to add my two cents. I use my discovery and previously my series 3's constantly to tow.
Ive had other land rovers and 4x4's and once a super heavy mercedes s-class on a trailer behind mine and they tow no problem.
Ive also towed a couple of sankey trailers connected together with nato hitches with my ffr series 3. Ive heard of people towing much larger quantity's though.
The tow ratings are there as a safety aspect but the vehicles are capable of much more.
Ive had other land rovers and 4x4's and once a super heavy mercedes s-class on a trailer behind mine and they tow no problem.
Ive also towed a couple of sankey trailers connected together with nato hitches with my ffr series 3. Ive heard of people towing much larger quantity's though.
The tow ratings are there as a safety aspect but the vehicles are capable of much more.
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Oh and speeding up if you have a snake instead of slowing down is correct.
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And gritting your teeth, grasping the steering wheel and clenching your buttocks helps too....not
Thanks I'll try that next time! If I hit the a14 at the wrong time I'm surrounded by hgv's! Pony couldn't give a hoot, sometimes they are in front, behind and beside us at the same time lol!! Have to say the guys in the lorries invariably give me loads of room as I trundle along but at the end of the day they are a lot bigger than me and have plenty of suck n draw
LOL only time I have frightened myself towing was the M60. It splits into three motorways and I wanted to get to the right hand one. Had to cross 6 lanes to get there. Driving a non turbo 90 with no acceleration to speak of. Had HGVs in front, behind and at both sides. Have never driven that way again and that was 15 years ago. Good thing I dont live near it.
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i have always came off throttle left brake and cruise thro a bad snake. I have been towing over twenty years 20 foot vans to 12foot vans always worked with me. If you look into snaking it's luck, brake, accelarte or come off pedals the van can still turn turtle. You need to load van correctly keep within speed limits and be a smooth driver no sudden movements. These help the inevitable from happening. Tire pressures and correct tyres also come into the equation a friend had a serious accident in his car towing a new caravan wrong tyres from factory big pay out. Todays caravan susp. is set up and designed around the correct tyre for caravan.
Very good point, another thing that has been widely discussed is tyres for the big horse trailers. Some owners, and worse still tyre retailers, put car tyres on them. They need the van type tyres with reinforced walls. I assume caravans and other trailers do too.
I think this happens more with the old trailers, like the Rice Silverlandy has. Because they last forever and change hands, get painted etc, the stickers and log books disappear so the new owners dont always know.
I bet the "can I tow with this vehicle" threads on the caravan forums are even more interesting than those on the horsey forums.
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"Oh and speeding up if you have a snake instead of slowing down is correct."
Untill you have LOTS of experience , do not try anything other than removing foot from accelerator , holding steering straight and gentle braking if you start to feel instability , anything else will more likely increase the problem unless you happen to be extremely lucky.
Ive been to enough accidents over the years to confirm it !
Untill you have LOTS of experience , do not try anything other than removing foot from accelerator , holding steering straight and gentle braking if you start to feel instability , anything else will more likely increase the problem unless you happen to be extremely lucky.
Ive been to enough accidents over the years to confirm it !
