V8 reliability?

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jaycey001

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hello

quick question, thinking of buying a defender fitted with a range rover 4.2 V8 linked to a p-38 electronic auto transmition,

how reliable are these units? millage is unknown so imagine over 200K
its also lpg converted.

should i expect any problems with it?

thanks
in advance
james
 
:hysterically_laughi:hysterically_laughi:hysterically_laughi

2 words that dont go together

that said the noise and the grin factor make it worth while but be prepared to get your hands dirty.
 
hello

quick question, thinking of buying a defender fitted with a range rover 4.2 V8 linked to a p-38 electronic auto transmition,

how reliable are these units? millage is unknown so imagine over 200K
its also lpg converted.

should i expect any problems with it?

thanks
in advance
james

I'd steer clear, if you must have a V8 in a fender go for a 3.5, its less stressed, stick to the earlier auto box to for relative trouble free motoring.

Mine's a 20 years old factory auto and has never given any trouble.
 
hello

quick question, thinking of buying a defender fitted with a range rover 4.2 V8 linked to a p-38 electronic auto transmition,

how reliable are these units? millage is unknown so imagine over 200K
its also lpg converted.

should i expect any problems with it?

thanks
in advance
james

A few potential gremlins in there! If it's cheap enough then why not but budget time and money to investigate the engine and maybe change cam shaft, timing chain, ignition parts, air and oil filters etc. P38 gearbox, mmmmmm - don't know much about them except if it goes pear shaped it will be a world of pain. Definately a 50/50 go for it/run away situation.
 
Presumption is, that the engine and box were pulled straight from a defunct P38 as a unit and dumped into the defender.
You dont say whether its a SWB or LWB defender, but of a SWB, then there may be some concern over prop-shaft angles and clerences, as well as actual engine / box location on the chassis rails; some of which also apply to the LWB, but as angles less acute, not so critical.
My first concern, though would be the electronics on the engine & box.
P38's are notoriouse for the integrated 'security features' that combined the ECU with the alarm and central locking system. and I believe on later versions, the gearbox electronics are linked into the engine management AND the ABS and if fitted the Traction Control units.
These give seriouse nightmares to owners in P38's where the system is standard, works (or doesn't as the case may be!) like the books and fault finding manual say...
Installed in defender; I'd be intregued to know what had been done to the electronics, and how or IF the integration with the other systems had been dissabled or circumvented. Or carried over; for instance the ABS system....
There is a pottential mine-field of hassles in that one; in fact about 90% of ailments aflicting old P38's multiplied by the hassle factor of having to find them first becouse they aren't in a P38!
Otherwise; mechanical reliability of the engine & box is, well, 'fair'. They have thier faults, but they tend to be reletively easily and cheaply fixed compared to other motors, and the risks are pretty much of a much, and entirely dependent on condition, maintenence or neglect etc.
But in your case, complicated by the hybridisation into a different vehicle.

Putting it simply; I think I'd put it this way; would you, on reputation, buy a P38, and be prepared to take on the 'risks' that those bring; becouse essentially you have a rebodied one, with added potential hazards....
 
Just to add to what has already been said:

If you take away the electronics from the box and engine, it is quite a robust unit, but the electronics is what makes it work and unless you have all that with it and working, then you're in the poo.

Gas is an added complication, and while I like it on our Disco 2 4.0, I wouldn't like to have to sort out a non-functional unit, especially as it is a multi-point gas installation.

There's potential for a lot of go, but also a lot of heartache!

Wish you luck.

Peter
 
The 4.2v8 and P38 autobox seem an odd combination to me - are you sure that is exactly what is fitted ? The 4.2 was only used in the 93-95 Classic LSE,so is a distributor type engine - no provision for crank/cam sensors.(Needed for Gems or Thor injected V8's) And the P38 electronic control ZF boxes all need electronic input to their ecu from the engine ecu.So why anyone would go to all this trouble for slightly more "seamless" shifts in a clonky Defender is a bit hard to fathom.
The 4.2 against its original ZF would be a good choice,with either a gear or chain transfer box.There are no problems with propshafts etc and if the LPG is done properly that should be fine too.
It could be done with the electronic box,but I cant really see the point.
 
I'd walk away if I were you. These later V8's installations are complex enough as factory fitments let alone when they have been ''retrofitted'' (& to what level of expertise?) to different models. Suspect you will also need a very understanding insurance broker!
 
Thanks everyone for there input, im thinking i might be better to wait a bit untill i have the time and space to work on a defender v8, hopfully somthing with a little more history will come up for sale in the near future :)

thanks again, was realy in two minds,, maby ill start looking at range rovers/discos

thanks
james
 
the box from the 4.2 is a heavy duty version to the standard 100 spec classic auto box in the day problems with the 4.2 engine is this was the daddy that started the porus block issue we have with v8 today over bored and stretched beyound it's safe limits.
as pointed out thw p38a was never offeed with the 4.2 only the 4.0 and the 4.6 if the the 4.0 box was fitted it would have the p38a transfere box fitted as the classic one does not fit so the drive would be on the wrong side of the car n/s not o/s unless the box is from a disco2 then it would be correct but you would have a engine ecu and gearbox ecu and shed load more wiring and extra sensors on the engine too!
seems like you are being told a lot of cobblers about the spec walk away keep the money in your pocket
 
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