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Discussion in 'LandyZone International Rescue' started by tsodilo, Dec 28, 2017.

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  1. Grim

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    Having not been there myself, I'd probably ask the guys that did attend if they think it would be possible to recover safely with dryer, harder ground (my D2 is my daily as well, so I'd not want to destroy it), but with enough people with the right kit, maybe it could be do-able.
    Ultimately, we'd need the land owners consent. If the OP had returned to the thread, if his CR[ap]V is still there, I'm sure he'd provide contact details for the land owner o_O
     
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    Dippypud Never Knowingly Understood

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    One day of April left ... what do you reckon ?
     
  3. Turboman

    Turboman Rural Activist

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    Reckon I was wrong! :(
     
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  4. dieseldog69

    dieseldog69 Well-Known Member LZIR Despatch Agent

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    My mate near Cardiff says it's like a bog out in his woods, no chance of recovering that CRV any time soon, maybe in August?
     
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    Agreed!
     
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    Dippypud Never Knowingly Understood

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    And would they want it anyways ?
     
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    derwendolly Well-Known Member

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    This area is in very close proximity to recent major land slips where people have been forced into evacuation of their homes, (a further report on this is due very shortly), so perhaps his car is no longer where he left it!!!! :D:D:D
     
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    Turboman Rural Activist

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    dieseldog69 Well-Known Member LZIR Despatch Agent

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    We should be so lucky round ere, most excitement we get is drunk girls flashing their wobbly bits at you through the back window of a car LOL
     
  11. Turboman

    Turboman Rural Activist

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    That sounds preferable to a cliff falling on me. :)
     
  12. dieseldog69

    dieseldog69 Well-Known Member LZIR Despatch Agent

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    :D

    I fancies the cliff tonight, the commute home from Sandhurst was dire, proper slit your wrist traffic :mad:
     
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    That cliff falling on you, is it the wife spotting you spotting the wobbly bits?
     
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    This is an old and possibly dead thread here, but as a former Motorsports Recovery Operative, I was a bit concerned when more than one member posted to say, "It is up to the member to go and look and then make his own assessment as to whether he is able to help recover or not." This is frightening to anyone with experience. Because without proper training and experience you cannot make any sort of assessment of what you can or can't do. Just because you have a winch, recovery strops, tree strops, snatch blocks, ground anchors etc, doesn't mean you know how to use them. They aren't the problem, the vehicle to be recovered isn't the problem, even not having a proper recovery point isn't a problem! (You should see the things some rally drivers think is a recovery point, we had to keep a special small shackle to attach to the ridiculously small and inconsequential things they had, and the proper recovery shackle, in order to make a start!)
    Too often it is a case, with amateurs of "all the gear and no idea". No the problems are always, the terrain, the weather and the obstacles. As one member correctly said, recovering a wreck on its roof is often the best way. Even professionals can get caught out. Me and my crew chief once had to recover ourselves after accidentally backing our truck and the jib into a ditch, on our way down to lift a vehicle back on to the track. But at least we knew how to do it and it only delayed us about 5 minutes. Bear in mind that in MSR if the car is on or just off the track, we are working against the clock. So, if you want to get the gear, become an MSR operative, join a crew and get some training. It costs very little. But do be aware, you will not be insured, either your vehicle or yourself by the MSA, which is why my mate and I packed it in. (No one will tell you this, but I did once write about it in Land Rover Monthly.)
     
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    goonarmy Beer tester LZIR Despatch Agent

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    Who else would make the assessment then?
     
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    No one is disputing the risks involved with recovery.

    Nor is anyone claiming to be recovery trained.

    However common sense has to be applied, if the member, conducts an assessment and decideds that they want to help them they should.

    There are a limited amount of agencies that will formally turn up and support. This is an amazing service that does an awful lot of good.
     
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    hopefully @Stanleysteamer will sign up for LZIR and we
    can rely on him to conduct all the risk assessment in person, on site. :D
     
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    Will he be covered by the Landyzone Insurance Co PLC?
     
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    goonarmy Beer tester LZIR Despatch Agent

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    He'll have the same insurance cover as everyone else. Jack ****.
     
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    Oooh! Eggspurts, love eggspurts :)
     
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