RR Classic Springs on Defender?

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My suspension setup was thought out over a year of deciding what I wanted out of the 90. I needed a trials legal ARC legal trials and every day motor. Now things have advanced a bit and the 90's job has changed, I have changed the suspension once again. But my suspension setup is lovley. Soft springs and maximum compression and droop when required. I will be replacing my springs again soon for more Red/Whites because they have done a bit of work. They are not the spring you want if you plan on going overlanding or carrying much weight but for a cheap, fully tried and tested setup for trials events you can do alot worse without spending more than your car is worth on a suspension setup.
 
There are 2 arguments for articulation:

Stability,
and
To keep both wheels of an axle on the ground to try and stop getting cross axled. Yes it will help but how much weight is on the wheel hanging and how easy will it spin if you need to put some power down to keep moving?
 
jai_landrover said:
There are 2 arguments for articulation:

Stability,
and
To keep both wheels of an axle on the ground to try and stop getting cross axled. Yes it will help but how much weight is on the wheel hanging and how easy will it spin if you need to put some power down to keep moving?
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probably a bit less than if it was 6" of the floor

we could argue about this all night.

best let the original poster make up his own mind
 
mathers said:
Hi

First post on here. Haven't had to ask anything before as managed to find all answers I needed.

I can't find anything on this though...

I have a '96 90 with a 2" lift and (Britpart) heavy duty springs. However, I'm finding that the rear isn't articulating properly and I'm losing traction on rear wheels. It's as if I need a dead weight in the back to push the springs down.

Anyway, the lads at the landy club reckon I should change the rear springs for red and whites off a RR classic.

Does that sound like a good idea?

Bit of advice would be much appreciated.

Cheers
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Yes we both have ours sorted as we want.

To answer the first question Yes I believe this to be a good compromise for trialling. This is a good idea IF you want it for trials and remember it will compromise on road cornering and thus bodyroll. I'll be honest its not too bad unless you go hacking around at silly speeds. I find it far more comfortable than Standard springs unless loaded to its limit. Enuff Said.
Jai
 
Its the age old argument how good is articulation/dislocation cones etc some say yay some say nay we obviously have different ideas so as you say lets leave it at that.
 
Thanks for the further advice.

Jai - as I use the truck for trialling, I think I'll change the springs to red and whites and see how I get on. I've got bump stops (at the moment) so there shouldn't be any issue there.

I see the point about every set up being different and that what works for one might not work for another. As the spring change is cheaper, I think I'll leave the shocks until I've got a bit more cash.

Again, cheers for all input.
 
Having a 2" spring lift (be it longer or stiffer springs) and +2" shocks won't increase your articulation.

Down ward travel is increased by 2" but the upward travel is decreased by 2" if you have fitted extended bump stops to compensate for the longer shocks.

Stiffer springs need more weight to compress than softer springs,
Longer springs tend to bind up if compressed to much so need extended bump stops to prevent coil bind.

Softer spings do help articulation but tend to lower ground clearance.

If you fit soft springs you can use spring packers and adapter plates to gain the height back but you will then need longer shocks.

Removing anti-roll bars also helps increase articulation.
 
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