Road Tax

£260 for road tax Why don't they just add the tax to fuel cost? Then the more we drive the more we pay. Also get a disc to display MOT instead of a tax disc.

Bloody tax in the UK is a joke

Ah, this old nugget.

Check what it is in Switzerland or Scandinavia before jumping. It is more. Lots more (citation needed).

It costs what it costs, I'm afraid, and if vehicle excise duty were reduced, they'd start charging us elsewhere. They can't rack up petrol prices that much (despite us paying some of the lowest rates in Europe) because the public will go mental, and if they start charging tolls like the French do on their 'highways'.

Boil it down into a daily charge = £0.72p per day isn't that bad is it?

Let's say they did what you suggest & ramp up fuel prices by a generous (for them) amount to compensate. What happens when another administration comes to power a few years down the line & decides it'd be a damn good idea to reintroduce road tax "forgetting" of course to lower fuel prices back down.

hi what gets me is the way our tax money is wasted by any party thats in power

Pay about 600 to a 1000 road tax for a landy in scandinavia, and the petrol/diesel costs about the same as here these days...so, lets just keep quiet and not compare to other places shall we...might be cheaper elsewhere but you can bet your small english arse that if the politicians wanted to raise the tax they'd use the scandic lands as a 'we're still not as bad as them' argument....

I was in moan mode earlier Getting jittery about my MoT tomorrow

Theres a laminated poster in the garage where I take my cars for MoT that if an air freshner or sat nav holder is left on the windsreen than its an MoT failure!! Don't know what he'll make of my EGR bypass or Synergy 2. The Synergy is well hidden.

But it would be nice to see some decent roads for our money - thats the motorcyclist in me talking before Im reminded the Freelander is a 4x4.

zoolander said:

Theres a laminated poster in the garage where I take my cars for MoT that if an air freshner or sat nav holder is left on the windsreen than its an MoT failure!! Don't know what he'll make of my EGR bypass or Synergy 2. The Synergy is well hidden.

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thats right, anything in the a zone which is roughly the wiper sweep area

goonarmy said:

thats right, anything in the a zone which is roughly the wiper sweep area

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It's odd that a satnav mounting point is unacceptable for the MOT, yet the tax disc is okay

I have no idea how petrol retailers survive when so much of their business revolves around being unpaid tax collectors. It's bad enough where businesses are shouldered with having to be unpaid tax collectors at 20% VAT, but with the tax take on fuel already being about 60% of their entire revenue, what would it be like if petrol retailers were effectively saddled with RFL collection as well?

zoolander said:

£260 for road tax Why don't they just add the tax to fuel cost? Then the more we drive the more we pay. Also get a disc to display MOT instead of a tax disc.

Bloody tax in the UK is a joke

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I used to think that would be a good idea but after some thought, it would only benefit those who drive a Prius. Given that Landy's are not exactly the most economical vehicles in the world, I'm sure we would not benefit if they scrapped VED (road tax) in exchange for a hike in fuel tax.

Funny thing is though is that it costs less to tax a Disco 300 tdi than it does to tax a Freelander TD4.

hehe, it does make me laugh - well what can we do about it ?

glad since I traded in my freelander for my range rover, the cars twice the size, engine and emmisions and the tax is the same price as my small freelander ! haha

zoolander said:

But it would be nice to see some decent roads for our money - thats the motorcyclist in me talking before Im reminded the Freelander is a 4x4.

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Agreed. You know a pot hole is bad when it send a massive "Clunk" through a Freelander....

I don't get the local council around here. They spend hundreds of thousands on re-tarmaccing a main road, which really doesn't 'need' it, but they overlook a roundabout at the end of their borough whose surface resembles that of a teenager's acne-ridden face following prolonged exposure to nuclear fallout...

twin_cam_turbo said:

Ah, this old nugget.

Check what it is in Switzerland or Scandinavia before jumping. It is more. Lots more (citation needed).

It costs what it costs, I'm afraid, and if vehicle excise duty were reduced, they'd start charging us elsewhere. They can't rack up petrol prices that much (despite us paying some of the lowest rates in Europe) because the public will go mental, and if they start charging tolls like the French do on their 'highways'.

Boil it down into a daily charge = £0.72p per day isn't that bad is it?

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Fuel is approx 55 PENCE a litre which is fine. Tax and VAT is approx 85 PENCE a litre which is legalised robbery.

Regards

BP*

2.0_hippo said:

hehe, it does make me laugh - well what can we do about it ?

glad since I traded in my freelander for my range rover, the cars twice the size, engine and emmisions and the tax is the same price as my small freelander ! haha

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Yeah, but how much more did your insurance end up costing you.

Big Phil said:

Fuel is approx 55 PENCE a litre which is fine. Tax and VAT is approx 85 PENCE a litre which is legalised robbery.

Regards

BP*

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So what does that make the fuel at £1.60 in Norway then? A heist? And they bring more of out the ground than they could ever use if Europe didn't force them to sell it to them at a good price.

C'mon, you can moan about it all you like, but if it's that big a deal to you, go buy a more fuel efficient vehicle. Fuel costs what it costs.

In any event there is sympathy from political bodies. The IEA helped recently when it released 60 million barrels about a month ago (2m a day for a month). This flooding of the market has pushed the oil prices down, so the cost of petrol didn't rise.

chromiumuk said:

Yeah, but how much more did your insurance end up costing you.

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£1800 more than the freelander but damm its worth it !

In what way? Im planning my next Land Rover in 2 years and not sure what one Im getting.

Wife is slowly nicking my Freelander

Road tax is a total rip off as you never see any money actually getting spent on road maintenance,well not up here anyway!