Landy Lock-Out!!

On a frosty Monday morning this week I left the house as usual, lock the front door on exit, unlock landy and fire it up, turn on the heated windows and climb back out to scrape the ice off the side windows. Just before I can start scraping...clunck! the central locking locks all of the doors!!
Realisation sets in! House keys are locked in the landy, the house is locked, I don't have any spare keys for the landy, engine is still running, heater is on full, front and rear heated screens are on, DOH!!
2 hours and £163 later, the RAC turn up and help break into my landy!!
I have not had any central locking problems since monday.
I'm confused, why did my doors lock themself? Anyone experienced this problem before??

we've a nissan navara at work that does this. get in start up and after a few moments the doors all lock. it has had problems with the alarm so i dont know if the two are linked? pain in the arse thuogh if your outside and need to leave the engine running
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Dunno about Defenders, but my boyfriend's Disco 2 automatically locks the doors shortly after the engine is started, as you start to drive (safety mechanism I guess so people don't try open the doors and rob you in transit). Seems to be on a timer. Perhaps a similar thing on yours? Do they usually lock when you get going? Could it have been the timer-thingy setting in?

seekingserenity said:

Dunno about Defenders, but my boyfriend's Disco 2 automatically locks the doors shortly after the engine is started, as you start to drive (safety mechanism I guess so people don't try open the doors and rob you in transit). Seems to be on a timer. Perhaps a similar thing on yours? Do they usually lock when you get going? Could it have been the timer-thingy setting in?

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dunt seem like a safety idea to me? what if yer in a crash, does it automatically unlock em so folk can drag yer out before it blows up,you drown or get burnt alive?

its quite common on modern motors, Slob - i think its law in Canada and poss the states - and yes - i think in the case of an accident, the doors are supposed to unlock.

so yer in a accident and yer battery takes a hit or shorts out, do they have a back up midget installed to run around unlocking all yer doors?

no idea - just tellin it as i fink it is - maybe loss of power unlocks the doors - just a guess.

sounds a bit dodgy to me . the only thing i've seen in a similar vein is the 'panic button' that locks all doors and shuts all yer windows in one go.

When central locking was 1st becoming popular. the easiest way to get into one if you lost the keys was to give em a sharp bump on the bumper and the central locking would release, because it thought it'd been in an accident.

The Mad Hat Man said:

no idea - just tellin it as i fink it is - maybe loss of power unlocks the doors - just a guess.

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does that mean doors would open if ya left yer lights on an battery went flat

possibly - not good, i know - but betterer than being stuck inside a burning car wiv all the doors locked!

maybe it is linked to the crash immobiliser?

Safety Features for the 2003 discovery Itg also has something that the yanks call superlock capability??

SAFETY


Four-channel, all-terrain Anti-lock Braking System (ABS).
Four-wheel Electronic Traction Control (4ETC).
Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBFD).
Driver and front passenger airbag Supplemental Restraint System (SRS).
Three-point seatbelts for all seating positions.
LATCH (Lower Anchor and Tether for Children) system for child seat attachment.
Collision-activated inertia switch (unlocks doors, turns off fuel pump and activates hazard warning lights).
Rear foglamps.

slob said:

dunt seem like a safety idea to me? what if yer in a crash, does it automatically unlock em so folk can drag yer out before it blows up,you drown or get burnt alive?

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The doors are unlocked when the crash sensor is activated. At the same time as this on most cars a fuel cut of switch is also tripped cutting your engine. If you have airbags on your car these should also deploy. You may have more than one sensor so not all airbags will deploy if the impact is for example on the passenger side front door.

If you have a vehicle without an airbag and lock your keys in with the ignition on or engine running you CAN unlock it by impacting the crash sensor. The main problem is knowing where the sensor is. Most people are misled into thinking they are in the front bumper. It is a myth. They are further back. If anyone wants to test this and has a mate with an old astra (they are the easiest car to do it on) On a mk3 and 4 vauxhall astra they are located on the bottom drivers door hinge. Put a file in through the door crack onto the bottom hinge and give it a sharp tap and the doors WILL unlock. (Doesn't work with the ignition off). On BMW's the sensors are on the floor pan under the seats.

A standard defender with keys locked in takes approx 20 seconds to get into and can be done by anyone without the need for any specialist tools.

Drive away locking is increasingly popular, I believe a legal requirement in some countries, and most Land Rovers (not Defenders) come from the factory with it set. Can be unset by the dealers (or the driver on Discovery3/RR Sport). It locks the doors when a preset speed (5kph?) is reached so not the culprit here.
Yes, I've heard of it on a Defender, in our case it was a faulty door lock (RH Rear), it had already triggered the alarm at 2 o'clock the previous morning.
We also had it on a Freelander once, well twice, same vehicle, same driver (he got whally of the year for that) and all our drivers are now instructed never to leave the keys in an unoccupied vehicle. Bad security anyway.

randy90 said:

2 hours and £163 later, the RAC turn up and help break into my landy!!
I have not had any central locking problems since monday.
I'm confused, why did my doors lock themself? Anyone experienced this problem before??

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Why £163?

Davec said:

Drive away locking is increasingly popular, I believe a legal requirement in some countries, and most Land Rovers (not Defenders) come from the factory with it set. Can be unset by the dealers (or the driver on Discovery3/RR Sport). It locks the doors when a preset speed (5kph?) is reached so not the culprit here.
Yes, I've heard of it on a Defender, in our case it was a faulty door lock (RH Rear), it had already triggered the alarm at 2 o'clock the previous morning.
We also had it on a Freelander once, well twice, same vehicle, same driver (he got whally of the year for that) and all our drivers are now instructed never to leave the keys in an unoccupied vehicle. Bad security anyway.

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i dont fink it is speed related - coz in Canada, it was introduced to stop a spate of mugging at traffic lights. car wud stop/ gunman jump in back/rob peeps/jump out.

Don't know about Canada but speed related in UK

Davec said:

Why £163?

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I am a bit confused on this myself!!!! Unless a locksmith is required to unlock the vehicle as it is super secure (which a defender isn't) or make up a new key or a Hi-ab is needed to uplift the vehicle there should not be any charge.

Its a 2003 Defender 90 TD5.
The 163 Squid was for RAC membership and the call out charge!!

Remember, My house was locked so I had No tools!!

Ratty, Wish I know how to open locked doors in 20 seconds without special tools! Is this without breaking a window!?!

randy90 said:

Its a 2003 Defender 90 TD5.
The 163 Squid was for RAC membership and the call out charge!!

Remember, My house was locked so I had No tools!!

Ratty, Wish I know how to open locked doors in 20 seconds without special tools! Is this without breaking a window!?!

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brick +window????????