Hi I'm new and need a little help

Hi,

Hopefully ive posted in the right place?

I've just bought a disco 2 to tow my off road disco 1, however the disco2 needs a few jobs doing before she can go on the road.

I bought it knowing the air suspension at the back dosnt work, but I'm wondering if I should look to see if there any simple fixes it could be before attempting to put shocks and springs on it.

Any ideas, suggestions are very welcome!

Bob

You've picked the wrong place AND the wrong topic, unfortunately. The first post should be in the "Introduce Yourself" thread and it should never be about something as controversial here as disabling EAS and switching to the demon coils.

Welcome to LZ.

Not a great start then!

Like WSR says^^^^^^^^^^, Introduce Yourself at top od LZ main page

Then try forum search, you will find plenty of heated debate!

And if you do need to come back and ask, try and be a bit more specific about the problem.

Bobminda said:

Not a great start then!

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But it's a start. This is the best Land Rover forum on the planet and you've found it.

I'm no expert on EAS as both my Rangies are on Satan's springs, but there are experts here on keeping the EAS systems up.

Hi wsr

I've now posted in the newbie section. .... Sorry

Errr pardon my stupidity but what does eas stand for..?

Bobminda said:

Hi wsr

I've now posted in the newbie section. .... Sorry

Errr pardon my stupidity but what does eas stand for..?

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Electronic Air Suspension

Bobminda said:

Hi wsr

I've now posted in the newbie section. .... Sorry

Errr pardon my stupidity but what does eas stand for..?

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Well played. It stands for Electronic Air Suspension.

Electronic Air Suspension - wot dem posh gits wiv Range Rovers calls it. To us D2 plebs, it's SLS - self-levelling suspension

AFAICT, it's fairly simple: Prop up the rear body, remove bags and air lines, install springs. Optionally remove the air pump. The tricky part comes in telling the car that it no longer has air bags, for that you need access to a diagnostic computer such as Hawkeye and Nanocom. Otherwise the system will think it can raise the rear end, and will continue to power the air compressor, draining the battery.

Are ok, thanks

From freinds and forums this seems to be a particular problem, why is it such a controversial thing to switch to springs?

srtgray said:

Electronic Air Suspension - wot dem posh gits wiv Range Rovers calls it. To us D2 plebs, it's SLS - self-levelling suspension

AFAICT, it's fairly simple: Prop up the rear body, remove bags and air lines, install springs. Optionally remove the air pump. The tricky part comes in telling the car that it no longer has air bags, for that you need access to a diagnostic computer such as Hawkeye and Nanocom. Otherwise the system will think it can raise the rear end, and will continue to power the air compressor, draining the battery.

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Very useful this, any idea of prices?

I know people are shouting things like shouldn't you have looked into this first but the wagon was very cheap

Bobminda said:

Are ok, thanks

From freinds and forums this seems to be a particular problem, why is it such a controversial thing to switch to springs?

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it isnt is it , ive done quite a few conversions to springs , you lose the self levelling but gain better handling imo

Bobminda said:

Are ok, thanks

From freinds and forums this seems to be a particular problem, why is it such a controversial thing to switch to springs?

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I guess the ride is better. I use my Rover as a work vehicle, from hauling me around for my painting business to getting firewood and prospecting for gold in the Colorado Rockies. I can't imagine how air suspension would be better than my coils for what I do with my RRC, but peeps say EAS is the bee's knees.

jamesmartin said:

it isnt is it , ive done quite a few conversions to springs , you lose the self levelling but gain better handling imo

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I've bought it for towing my off road disco in the first instance so as long as it can do that I'll be a happy bunny.


I can do the basics but would you say it's a tough job to convert?

I'm guessing there isn't a easy fix for informing the the ecu?

Bobminda said:

Are ok, thanks

From freinds and forums this seems to be a particular problem, why is it such a controversial thing to switch to springs?

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Some worry about no self levelling, and that you should notify insurers as it is a modification.

My Disco is on coils, long before I had it, and it drives and tows very well. But it is often fairly easy to sort the SLS if wished!

If the eas or sls is easy/cheap to fix I'm happy to fix it, just don't know where to to start

Bobminda said:

I've bought it for towing my off road disco in the first instance so as long as it can do that I'll be a happy bunny.


I can do the basics but would you say it's a tough job to convert?

I'm guessing there isn't a easy fix for informing the the ecu?

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If towing is an important part of the work this new vehicle is going to be doing, you should keep the SLS (Self Levelling Suspension) imo.

It's not at all a complicated or difficult system to keep working reliably, it just needs servicing correctly.

For example, the rear air springs are made of rubber and live in a hostile environment - underneath the car and without any protection - so the first thing to check, assuming the system is not working correctly, are the air springs.

Using a spray bottle of soapy water check for leaks on the air springs, their connectors, the air valves next to the compressor.

The system only operates when the engine is running and all doors are closed - Does the compressor fire up? If it doesn't, check the fuseable link in the engine bay fuse box. If it's blown, replace and try again.


If the compressor runs but does not pump, you can buy a compressor repair kit for about £15 which brings it back to 'as new' condition.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVE...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item257e71db4d

Check the condition of the ride height sensors, they can get broken. DO NOT DISCONNECT ANY ELECTRICAL PART OF THE SLS WITH FIRST DISCONNECTING THE MAIN CAR BATTERY; if you don't you'll be heading for a world of frustration.

Air springs should be replaced in pairs and replacements can be purchased for approx £120 the pair from Paddocks.

It's not expensive to keep this system up to good std, and towing with it makes life much easier/smoother.


Dave

thebiglad said:

If towing is an important part of the work this new vehicle is going to be doing, you should keep the SLS (Self Levelling Suspension) imo.

It's not at all a complicated or difficult system to keep working reliably, it just needs servicing correctly.

For example, the rear air springs are made of rubber and live in a hostile environment - underneath the car and without any protection - so the first thing to check, assuming the system is not working correctly, are the air springs.

Using a spray bottle of soapy water check for leaks on the air springs, their connectors, the air valves next to the compressor.

The system only operates when the engine is running and all doors are closed - Does the compressor fire up? If it doesn't, check the fuseable link in the engine bay fuse box. If it's blown, replace and try again.


If the compressor runs but does not pump, you can buy a compressor repair kit for about £15 which brings it back to 'as new' condition.

Check the condition of the ride height sensors, they can get broken. DO NOT DISCONNECT ANY ELECTRICAL PART OF THE SLS WITH FIRST DISCONNECTING THE MAIN CAR BATTERY; if you don't you'll be heading for a world of frustration.

Air springs should be replaced in pairs and replacements can be purchased for approx £120 the pair from Paddocks.

It's not expensive to keep this system up to good std, and towing with it makes life much easier/smoother.


Dave

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This is great info, many thanks

The compressor buzzes and does little else

Bobminda said:

This is great info, many thanks

The compressor buzzes and does little else

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Check for leaks in the bags, then get a compressor repair kit and it'll kick things back to life.

Also check the SLS filter which is behind the rear pillar LHS light. It's a black plastic cylinder-shaped thing. Make sure it's not blocked. Sometimes the filter disintegrates.


Dave

Dave, if your suggestions work, I'll be coming round to yours a give you a big wet sloppy kiss!!

I'll give it a go next weekend