Headlight fitting

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Bluenose5709

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Hi,

I have a 2001 freelander With the headlamps that have the clear indicator lenses. I am trying, so far unsuccessfully, to locate a set of these that are from a LHD vehicle.

Does anyone know if the Freelander 2 xenon headlights would fit my model?

Or indeed where I may find a set of LHD units to fit my model?

Thank you
 
freelander 2 headlights won't fit a freelander 1 anyway.

facelift 1 headlights can be adapted to fit a pre-facelift, but involves bumper and wiring mods too.

this question has come up a few times, the LHD headlights come u on ebay from time to time.
 
Why is it illegal to fit xenons?

It's an mot fail unless you have the correct lamps, self levelling and washing!!!
All aftermarket HID kits are marked for offroad use only for that reason! Just fitting proper HID lamps is also a fail without the rest of the stuff to go with it,
 
It's an mot fail unless you have the correct lamps, self levelling and washing!!!
All aftermarket HID kits are marked for offroad use only for that reason! Just fitting proper HID lamps is also a fail without the rest of the stuff to go with it,

Sorry, but I don't agree with you Diesel Do.

The MOT rules are a notorious can of worms.

The exact wording of the Tester's Inspection Manual Section 1.7 says:

HID lamps may be fitted with headlight washing system and a suspension or headlamp self-levelling system.

It does not say the systems must be fitted.

It goes on to say that if those systems are fitted - then they must be operational.

I don't know if HID lamps are available without the rest of the gubbins - but it looks like you don't really need the other bits.

Of course if the lamps come with the other bits attached - then you would indeed have to connect them up and make them operational.

Singvogel.
 
freelander 2 headlights won't fit a freelander 1 anyway.

facelift 1 headlights can be adapted to fit a pre-facelift, but involves bumper and wiring mods too.

this question has come up a few times, the LHD headlights come u on ebay from time to time.

My company does the wiring adapters. Needs a relay and diode too ( can be supplied).
 
Sorry, but I don't agree with you Diesel Do.

The MOT rules are a notorious can of worms.

The exact wording of the Tester's Inspection Manual Section 1.7 says:

HID lamps may be fitted with headlight washing system and a suspension or headlamp self-levelling system.

It does not say the systems must be fitted.

It goes on to say that if those systems are fitted - then they must be operational.

I don't know if HID lamps are available without the rest of the gubbins - but it looks like you don't really need the other bits.

Of course if the lamps come with the other bits attached - then you would indeed have to connect them up and make them operational.

Singvogel.

 Headlamp levelling and cleaning devices when fitted for HID or LED headlamps

Little phrase above refers to cleaning and levelling being part of the test when they're fitted with hid lamps! If they aren't mandatory why test them?
 
Sorry, but I don't agree with you Diesel Do.

The MOT rules are a notorious can of worms.

The exact wording of the Tester's Inspection Manual Section 1.7 says:

HID lamps may be fitted with headlight washing system and a suspension or headlamp self-levelling system.

It does not say the systems must be fitted.

It goes on to say that if those systems are fitted - then they must be operational.

I don't know if HID lamps are available without the rest of the gubbins - but it looks like you don't really need the other bits.

Of course if the lamps come with the other bits attached - then you would indeed have to connect them up and make them operational.

Singvogel.

Ahem!!!!!

Compared with halogen headlamps, HID lamps are more efficient, have a longer service life and are much brighter; up to three times brighter in fact. The benefit of this extra brightness is that it enables drivers using HID lights to see approximately 30% further up the road ahead than for a halogen system.
The downside of this extra brightness is the potential to cause excessive dazzle to oncoming traffic. To combat this, HID headlamps often have advanced electronics that control the shape of the headlamp beam to avoid dazzle when the car climbs or descends hills and likewise when the vehicle is accelerating or braking.
Dazzle can also be caused if the lamps are dirty or aimed too high due to, for example, carrying rear seat passengers and/or heavy items in the boot. Vehicles with HID headlamps are therefore required to have a headlamp washing system (a wiper is not required) and be self levelling, which may be achieved either by the use of either headlamp or suspension levelling systems.
The presence and operation of these headlamp cleaning and levelling devices has been added to the test. Therefore, if a mandatory headlamp levelling or cleaning device is missing, inoperative or otherwise obviously defective this will be a reason for rejection.
This raises the question of whether these checks apply to vehicles fitted with after-market HID lighting kits. These kits convert conventional halogen headlamps to HID Xenon and they are widely sold and fitted to vehicles used on the road. The Department for Transport considers that after-market systems should be required to meet the same safety standards as that applied in respect of these lamps at vehicle Type Approval. Therefore, in order to pass the MOT test, vehicles fitted with after-market HID systems would also need to be fitted with headlamp cleaning and self-levelling systems otherwise this will be a reason for rejection. Some high specification estate cars are fitted with a self-levelling suspension system and this would be considered as adequate for the purpose.
It is also worthy of note that a few high performance vehicles fitted with HID headlamps that have barely any luggage space and stiff suspension do not require a self-levelling system.
HID headlamps can be easily recognised as they generally:
• take a few seconds to reach full intensity
• have a bluish tinge to the light
• have an igniter module/inverter behind the headlamp
• may also have ‘DCR’ marked on the headlamp lens.
Headlamp washing and levelling systems are mandatory for all vehicles fitted with LED headlamp systems, although these are not yet widely used

Diesel Do;)
 
You are absolutely right DD.

This is a case of the MOT manual leaving a loophole by sloppy wording.

May does not mean must.

Personally I wouldn't fit after-market Zenons without all the ancillary bits, but on the surface of it it seems that a presenter could well have a case to not be rejected, because of the wording.

I don't know anyone who has fitted them and the subsequent MOT response.

It would be interesting to say the least.

Singvogel.
 
Mine was a clear indicator model!
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It's not any more!:D
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I've put osram xenon gas filled bulbs in. It makes a huge difference. Plus your dip stays on with main with the facelift lamps.
 
You are absolutely right DD.

This is a case of the MOT manual leaving a loophole by sloppy wording.

May does not mean must.

Personally I wouldn't fit after-market Zenons without all the ancillary bits, but on the surface of it it seems that a presenter could well have a case to not be rejected, because of the wording.

I don't know anyone who has fitted them and the subsequent MOT response.

It would be interesting to say the least.

Singvogel.

You have to read updates and special notices too. The manual isn't everything!
 
Mine was a clear indicator model!
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It's not any more!:D
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I've put osram xenon gas filled bulbs in. It makes a huge difference. Plus your dip stays on with main with the facelift lamps.

Yes - the original lamps were not so good.

My solution was the Philips H7 NightGuide for main beam & Philips H7 WeatherVision for low beam.

As you say having all bulbs lit on main beam is a boon.

S.
 
Mine was a clear indicator model!
View attachment 35350
It's not any more!:D
View attachment 35351
I've put osram xenon gas filled bulbs in. It makes a huge difference. Plus your dip stays on with main with the facelift lamps.

DD,

What is the chance that you have documented what the steps were to change form the original laps to the uplifted versions as you have done?

This is something i wish to do but at present would be starting this blind so to speak.

Thank you in advance,
Arran
 
DD,

What is the chance that you have documented what the steps were to change form the original laps to the uplifted versions as you have done?

This is something i wish to do but at present would be starting this blind so to speak.

Thank you in advance,
Arran

Er. I was lazy and didn't even take a photo to be honest:) its not as straight forward as you'd think. Pm me if you want some details. W
 
Mine was a clear indicator model!
View attachment 35350
It's not any more!:D
View attachment 35351
I've put osram xenon gas filled bulbs in. It makes a huge difference. Plus your dip stays on with main with the facelift lamps.
hi mate do you know which colours on the old loom connect to the new facelift loom im in the process of doing a facelift on mine and when i took the new headlights off the donor car i took the plug and about six inches of wiring,any help is appreciated thanks
 
hi mate do you know which colours on the old loom connect to the new facelift loom im in the process of doing a facelift on mine and when i took the new headlights off the donor car i took the plug and about six inches of wiring,any help is appreciated thanks

You will be going from a single 472 bulb to a pair of H7 bulbs. The wiring colours are the same. The only change would be the inclusion of a 5 to 10 Amp Diode and relay in the circuit. This links the Main beam wire to the Dip circuit when Main is on.
 
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