Head bolt re-torque

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The Mad Hat Man said:
liners are, to the best of my knowledge a no-no.... or, at least, not cost effective to replace.

It is a pity, but I dont believe that it lends itself to top hat linering, either :(.

yu have to decide, how much more money do you want to throw at it?
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i take it youve never seen one with a head off ,liner and piston kits are less than £200
 
DD3 said:
Dude, would you really buy another F1? Each to there own, but I sure as hell wont be - enuf is enuf.
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No I wouldn't buy another Hippo, I'm pretty much done defending them now. I've had easier times deciding to break up wif wimmins than this!!!
 
jamesmartin said:
i take it youve never seen one with a head off ,liner and piston kits are less than £200
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Yes, but for all I know the head could be a gonner, the block could be warped - fook knows. It'd make more sense to transplant a lump from a known good runner.
 
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jamesmartin said:
i take it youve never seen one with a head off ,liner and piston kits are less than £200
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i have, but my understanding is that re-linering is not very successful. Or, at least, the success rate is quite low. If I remember correctly, LR do not recommend it. They suggest new engine in their bulletins.
 
The Mad Hat Man said:
i have, but my understanding is that re-linering is not very successful. Or, at least, the success rate is quite low. If I remember correctly, LR do not recommend it. They suggest new engine in their bulletins.
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lr dont recommend much work apart from fitting new its easier for them nowadays ,it depends if liners have hammered their seat
 
Hi

May I ask a really dumb question and hopefully can u leave my head on Lol

Due to the overheating problem with these engines , can a new recon cyl head be fitted, would it cure the entire problem or has this already been done

Why is these engines so problematic, what it simply a design fault with them etc, as I've seen about better conversion kits to prevent them from over heating

I. Imagine you have been down this road and certainly not trying to offend you in anyway and that everything has been done to this engine by sending you to the nearest brick wall and for banging your head against it as after reading everything that you've done you haven't ended up in the local nuthouse as I think I would be

Please once again hope that this doesn't come across as rude in any way, but with these engines does fitting a complete recon heads and improved cooling always sort all the problems out or does it go a lot deeper than that

Thanks again and hope by me asking these daft questions doesn't send you over into insanity lol

Gary
 
gstuart said:
Hi

May I ask a really dumb question and hopefully can u leave my head on Lol

Due to the overheating problem with these engines , can a new recon cyl head be fitted, would it cure the entire problem or has this already been done

Why is these engines so problematic, what it simply a design fault with them etc, as I've seen about better conversion kits to prevent them from over heating

I. Imagine you have been down this road and certainly not trying to offend you in anyway and that everything has been done to this engine by sending you to the nearest brick wall and for banging your head against it as after reading everything that you've done you haven't ended up in the local nuthouse as I think I would be

Please once again hope that this doesn't come across as rude in any way, but with these engines does fitting a complete recon heads and improved cooling always sort all the problems out or does it go a lot deeper than that

Thanks again and hope by me asking these daft questions doesn't send you over into insanity lol

Gary
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Do a Search it's been covered loads. But basically the 1.8K series was designed for medium sized cars. and should never have been fitted into a motor the size of a gaylander. Rover (like all their designs) fooked it up and never did any of the mods needed to make it a reliable engine.
 
gstuart said:
Hi

May I ask a really dumb question and hopefully can u leave my head on Lol

Due to the overheating problem with these engines , can a new recon cyl head be fitted, yes would it cure the entire problem no or has this already been done sometimes

Why is these engines so problematic, what it simply a design fault with them etc, it isnt simple - its a calamitous design failure as I've seen about better conversion kits to prevent them from over heating they dont work - they help but arent 100% successful

I. Imagine you have been down this road and certainly not trying to offend you in anyway and that everything has been done to this engine by sending you to the nearest brick wall and for banging your head against it as after reading everything that you've done you haven't ended up in the local nuthouse as I think I would be

Please once again hope that this doesn't come across as rude in any way, but with these engines does fitting a complete recon heads and improved cooling always sort all the problems out or does it go a lot deeper than that its a **** design with abysmal cooling design, poorly put together

Thanks again and hope by me asking these daft questions doesn't send you over into insanity lol

Gary
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gstuart said:
Hi

May I ask a really dumb question and hopefully can u leave my head on Lol

Due to the overheating problem with these engines , can a new recon cyl head be fitted, would it cure the entire problem or has this already been done

Why is these engines so problematic, what it simply a design fault with them etc, as I've seen about better conversion kits to prevent them from over heating

I. Imagine you have been down this road and certainly not trying to offend you in anyway and that everything has been done to this engine by sending you to the nearest brick wall and for banging your head against it as after reading everything that you've done you haven't ended up in the local nuthouse as I think I would be

Please once again hope that this doesn't come across as rude in any way, but with these engines does fitting a complete recon heads and improved cooling always sort all the problems out or does it go a lot deeper than that

Thanks again and hope by me asking these daft questions doesn't send you over into insanity lol

Gary
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No worries Gary, basically as far as I understand it, the liners are mounted of a rubbery type material at the bottom which gives them an upward spring which help to seals the cylinders against the HG. What can happen is that these can be overheated and loose their spring, and also the liners (which are steel) can hammer their way through their seats in the alloy block. Either way it means a huge amout of work to recon the engine and if the seats are gone then the block is scrap.
 
The Mad Hat Man said:
liners are, to the best of my knowledge a no-no.... or, at least, not cost effective to replace.

It is a pity, but I dont believe that it lends itself to top hat linering, either :(.

yu have to decide, how much more money do you want to throw at it?
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Place in Hinckley will supply Liners for the 1.8 K series engine for £21.51 a piece . Now if the liners go into the block hence siting flush or below the block surface would shims between the liner and block if measured give you something within spec limits ? Maybe not worth doing or exploring if the liners sit too low in the block just an idea:eek:
 
bruno1926 said:
Place in Hinckley will supply Liners for the 1.8 K series engine for £21.51 a piece . Now if the liners go into the block hence siting flush or below the block surface would shims between the liner and block if measured give you something within spec limits ? Maybe not worth doing or exploring if the liners sit too low in the block just an idea:eek:
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Depends if the liners have cut into the block. And even IF I could be fecked to do all that there's no guarentee it's not going to lunch it's fooking self again in the future :mad:!!!!

Cheers for the suggestion though I will look it up :).
 
DD3 said:
Can you replace liners? - I read somewhere its not possible! If this the case, then the engine can be saved.
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yes but along time since i did ,obviously if seats damaged new liners would sit low ,they arejust a push fit ,liners are graded height wise to blocks ,you can buy stock liners and machine to required dimensions ,but wouldnt be worth it unless you had your own machinery
 
jamesmartin said:
yes but along time since i did ,obviously if seats damaged new liners would sit low ,they arejust a push fit ,liners are graded height wise to blocks ,you can buy stock liners and machine to required dimensions ,but wouldnt be worth it unless you had your own machinery
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Never new that. Do they glue - did I imagine this?
 
jamesmartin said:
yes but along time since i did ,obviously if seats damaged new liners would sit low ,they arejust a push fit ,liners are graded height wise to blocks ,you can buy stock liners and machine to required dimensions ,but wouldnt be worth it unless you had your own machinery
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Off topic just a tad, but have you ever heard anything to watch out for re Beemers straight 6 pot engines?
 
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