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I agree on a bit of good banter, hell thats what makes life fun.....but i cant help but feel it appears to be more than banter on several occasions. Maybe I will have a good one, or maybe a bad one. Ive owned a xantia for 8 years and spent...erm, brake bads, discs and tyres in its entire life. Thats great cheap motoring, but even though i know the rep of the FL, i couldn't hlp but be drawn to it. Isn't that the point of owning a car as you get older you want to love it, not just drive it. I would have been reluctant from day 1 to spend anything on the xantia but i know FL is going to cost me money, a treat to myself to have a hobby and car in one is the way i look at it.

Could have had a Rav 4, or CRV, but lets face it..... I m not a boring grumpy old git yet so the FL was decided upon! Looks, fun, hobby.....what more do i want. As for the bank balance, well, my daughter eats that anyway so an excuse to spend a bit on myself would be nice!

Im not taking it too serously really, but it does get a bit much with some of the comments made IMO. No thread seems to just get positive action recommendations but turns into a war re several other issues.

Cheers all.
 
doobreydog said:
Hi Sharpe.. There is actually some decent advice to be found on here if you can read past the crap that keeps getting thrown round about how much its gonna cost yer..

Basically there are a few who have had problems (no-one is trying to say that a freelander is going to be fault free) and from what I can see by their past posts have obviously not listened to well infomed unbiased judgement but chosen to take the advice of the burn it brigade...



Must admit I find the attitude of some of the regular members completely anti-freelander (maybe its just to keep a high post count??) and its no wonder so many freelander owners pop in once or twice and go elsewhere.

There are plenty of other forums around some a bit too sanitised and PC now, but if your happy to give it back then join in.
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There maybe a reason why people are anti GL. Car review: Land Rover Freelander (1997 - 2006)&

And I quote:

S and T platers 16th from bottom in 2001 Top Gear / J.D. Power Customer Satisfaction Survey. In June 2001 Land Rover was rated by Motor Warranty Direct as Britain's 2nd worst out of 22 marques for warranty claims (www.warrantydirect.co.uk) 2nd bottom of 100 models for reliability in Auto Express 2002 survey. 7th from Bottom in 144 car 2002 JD Power / What Car? Customer Satisfaction Survey of V and W reg cars. LandRover had joint highest average cost in warranty claims for cars up to 10 years old in 2002 Warranty Direct index. Joint third bottom in 2002 Which reliability survey of cars up to 2 years old; 106 cars surveyed. Land Rover 3rd least reliable of 31 makes of car in 2002 'Which?' reliability survey cars 2000 - 2002; least reliable of 32 makes built 1997 - 1999. Land Rovers had third highest warranty repair costs in 2003 Warranty Direct Reliability index (index 167.53 v/s lowest 31.93). 1998-2002 petrol rated poor for breakdowns and problems, average for faults; 1998-2000 diesel rated average for breakdowns and faults, poor for problems; 2001-2003 petrol rated average for breakdowns and problems, poor for faults in 2003 Which survey. 8th from bottom out of 137 models in 2003 Top Gear survey. Freelander 9th bottom model in 2004 JD Power Customer Satisfaction Survey. Only 89% of cars up to 2 years old breakdown-free over previous 12 months in 2004 Which? survey, yet gasket problem was supposed to have been fixed from 2001 production. Land Rover 4th bottom of Reliability Index for 2004 combining average cost of repair of £367.03 with highest 46.23 failures per 100 Warranty Direct policies. Link:- www.reliabilityindex.co.uk Freelander 5th least reliable car in 2005 Warranty Direct Reliability Survey with 55 repair claims per 100 cars. Link:- www.reliabilityindex.co.uk 2000-2006 Freelander 7th equal least reliable car in 2007 Warranty Direct Reliability Survey with 48 faults per 100 cars.

Think we're spouting? An I quite liked me GL.


 
sharpe said:
Maybe I will have a good one, or maybe a bad one. Sensible Outlook Sharpie. Thats great cheap motoring, but even though i know the rep of the FL, i couldn't hlp but be drawn to it. Isn't that the point of owning a car as you get older you want to love it, not just drive it. I would have been reluctant from day 1 to spend anything on the xantia but i know FL is going to cost me money, a treat to myself to have a hobby and car in one is the way i look at it.Good Lad.;)

Could have had a Rav 4, or CRV, but lets face it..... I m not a boring grumpy old git yet so the FL was decided upon! Looks, fun, hobby.....what more do i want. As for the bank balance, well, my daughter eats that anyway so an excuse to spend a bit on myself would be nice!

Im not taking it too serously really, but it does get a bit much with some of the comments made IMO. No thread seems to just get positive action recommendations but turns into a war re several other issues.Only seems to get brutal when the puritans stick their oar in. Loadsa freds are a happy mix of banter and advice. Don't let them scare you off Sharpie.

Cheers all.
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doobreydog said:
Have tried packing in the fags loadsa times...this time its workin without ripping mrs and family to bits...Coupla weeks and yer maybe safe;)
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I'll leya off doobrey, givin the smokes up is a barsteward.Look at it this way, least yer can give up the oily rags, doriss' have to put up wit being stroppy every month....:p

T' Barretts' back in its slip...and yer safe too Sharpie....;)
 
doobreydog said:
Aint seen the thing but presume its an advert for filters, but if your saying particles cant get through, then can you explain why carbon, the ****e formed in compression chamber from burning fuel mixed with air thats come through said filter with particles can.????




As before Slob I went into great detail to answer your question as to why oils/fluids deteriorate off road more than on...all I asked was why you thought they wouldnt..You obviously think you know better than most and seem to like telling people, so why if thats the case, wont you, in the interest of balanced argument, inform us all:confused:

Glad you think Im full of ****... comes in very handy in making those who are full of themselves look like ****.

Still awaiting my answer (Sir) as currently feel there must be something you can tell me without making yourself look a complete tw4t or backing into corners and throwing insults.
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all i see from you is unedjurcated tripe mixed in with some bollocks you probelly got from thickipedia, am mean how can someone think that changing yer oil at half the recomended interval is a sensible thing to do.

you might like to think you know stuff but from yer posts on here yer dunt know ****,and as am not one fer getting involved in cerebal games with those ill equipe to partake i'll bid yer farewell and hope that one day you'll begin to understand how things work.
 
slob said:
all i see from you is unedjurcated tripe mixed in with some bollocks you probelly got from thickipedia, am mean how can someone think that changing yer oil at half the recomended interval is a sensible thing to do.

you might like to think you know stuff but from yer posts on here yer dunt know ****,and as am not one fer getting involved in cerebal games with those ill equipe to partake i'll bid yer farewell and hope that one day you'll begin to understand how things work.
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Sorry if the bollocks your spouting causes me offence but personally dont take insults well from fooking ****s that are so full of ****e their eyes are brown and breath smells like my dogs arse.

My car, my money, my labour.... thought id explained in detail why (as yer asked) and asked for your opinions why not ... if you aint prepared to answer thats your choice ... not mind games simple debate .... dont try and make me look a fool to cover your own incompetence and ignorance
 
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