alternative to welding

There are many structural adhesives about that would bond these sectíons strong enough to last - mostly two part Epoxy or toughend acrylics. But these areas will look better with decent butt welds or a joggled joint.
Its already been said - get a mig and try it yourself. Its amazing how much you use a welder once youv'e got one. You can save bundles in the long run - patching up the chassis with bits n bobs for MOTs is one area where they are invaluble.

I'm not gonna make any comments as to what to do or where to buy, however I'm gonna say that I have a professional weld set for sale at the kind of price you'd buy a crappy new one, and I'm near lancaster.

If its a structural joint then you have to seam weld it for the mot, your allowed to have so many rivets to hold it in place, welding is the best way to do it, snotting up a bit of clean tin plate on a bench is a piece of ****, snotting up a rusty old landy at full arms stretch on less than new steel is a whole new ball game, take it from an experienced shed fixer, but thats no reason why you shouldnt do it yersel.

b20wnx said:

hi guys
well i am taking my series 88 to bits and the bulkhead needs some welding, i have bought new door pillars, top brackets and floor pans, i will need something to go along the top where the vents are as it is really bad. My question is (as i dont weld/never welded before) is there an alternative way of fixing these items and repairing the top bulkhead without welding - or do i need to dig deep into my pockets???

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Dried on weetabix

dr pepper said:

I'm not gonna make any comments as to what to do or where to buy, however I'm gonna say that I have a professional weld set for sale at the kind of price you'd buy a crappy new one, and I'm near lancaster.

If its a structural joint then you have to seam weld it for the mot, your allowed to have so many rivets to hold it in place, welding is the best way to do it, snotting up a bit of clean tin plate on a bench is a piece of ****, snotting up a rusty old landy at full arms stretch on less than new steel is a whole new ball game, take it from an experienced shed fixer, but thats no reason why you shouldnt do it yersel.

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how much??? what type is it????

I bought a mig 100 (100amps) when I was welding Moggie Minors. I then bought a mig 160 turbo as the mig 100 didnt have the penetration (ooer Matron !) for Landrover chassis work. I taught myself, like they say just get some sheet metal a grinder and start practising, great fun. I suspect the glue mentioned is the stuff Lotus etc are using to bond their panels. Bound to be expensive stuff.

these welders aint cheap are they, where would anyone recommend i get one from, also what type mig welder as i see there are loads of differing types... questions questions questions,,,,,,,mmmmm////:doh:

I have a Clarke welder but although it welds great , the nozzle shroud is held on with a wire spring...total ****e, the spring becomes squashed and the shroud falls off. I had a Migspares and a pal had a Snapon one where the shroud was screwed on with a proper thread..never fell off.

Also, You will get a better weld from a mixed argon/co2 gas bottle. I rent a big bottle from a Newcastle firm. I tried buying the small disposable bottles but they are not worth it as they run out after 10 mins.. Try and find an indepeandant supplier as the big stores will sell you anything. An independant guy will probably give better advice.

90 Amp gasless mig welder rockworth on eBay (end time 15-Jan-11 15:32:16 GMT)
seen this on ebay.... £25 postage (any thoughts please)

b20wnx said:

90 Amp gasless mig welder rockworth on eBay (end time 15-Jan-11 15:32:16 GMT)
seen this on ebay.... £25 postage (any thoughts please)

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I'm no expert, but its probably ****e.

Stick with a good name, I have a snap-on which I love!!!!

I have a gas turbo MIG as I simply couldn't get on with the gasless one I tried....However also, if it's thicker metal i.e not thin panels you could always try stick welding/ ARC welding. Dirt cheap to buy (bought mine s/h for £10), simple to use with practice. Some people dis ARC welding but it was feckin good at strengthing up the roll bar in my RR and sorting out /repairing the seat mountings recently.....good for making garden furniture and gates with too!

Yeah, gas welding is the mutts nuts (mate uses it up the farm), but REALLY expensive kit to buy.

Welding can be a bit of a scary thought until you try it. Frustrating to start with until you get the practice in, but seriously, once tried and are startin to get some results you'll wonder why you ever considered anything else.

cheers, Joe

i started out with a 120a stick welder (which i still have and use)
then a set of bottles (which i still use for welding / cutting / heating)
then a tig set for welding stainless, run off neat argon (big bottle on rental)
finally a clarke 160 turbo mig from the slight seconds shelf at machine mart for doing the type of stuff your wanting. (also run off the big argon bottle) edit- bit reluctant at 125 quid, but well worth it in hindsight

never tried a mig with argon co2 mix.

come and play!

This is what i'm welding at work at the moment



Its a bridge that goes accross 6 lanes of traffic with and advertising board in the centre

now thats Welding

Engineer1964 said:

This is what i'm welding at work at the moment

Its a bridge that goes accross 6 lanes of traffic with and advertising board in the centre

now thats Welding

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its bent!
and its fallen over!
an i'll have to have a go at oxy propane welding too!

other than that, i like your workshop....!

nrgserv said:

its bent!
and its fallen over!
an i'll have to have a go at oxy propane welding too!

other than that, i like your workshop....!

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Ha ha, 36 metres Long, it had to be built on its side because of the hight of the arch, theres about 2 months worth of work there, I'll make an album later and add the rest. Got to be one of the biggist things i've ever made

Engineer1964 said:

Ha ha, 36 metres Long, it had to be built on its side because of the hight of the arch, theres about 2 months worth of work there, I'll make an album later and add the rest. Got to be one of the biggist things i've ever made

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hope it fits thru thr front door, looks tight!
is it going out on skids or you gonna try it on the overhead..?

nrgserv said:

hope it fits thru thr front door, looks tight!
is it going out on skids or you gonna try it on the overhead..?

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It dismantals into 3 parts, there are 2 overhead cranes 4 tonne each, we'll move it toward the door and the lorry with crane takes over.

All the gubbins in the middle unbolt and all the joints on the arch and connectors are stick welded for strenght

lol engineer - looks like the landy bulkhead would be childs play for you - although i am no expert i think you have missed a bit ny the advertising bit lol....
ng i will be over as soon as i find out about this spare bulkhead down in chelmsford
also going to send you some pics to see what you think
cheers
steve

b20wnx said:

lol engineer - looks like the landy bulkhead would be childs play for you - although i am no expert i think you have missed a bit ny the advertising bit lol....
ng i will be over as soon as i find out about this spare bulkhead down in chelmsford
also going to send you some pics to see what you think
cheers
steve

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Hi Steve, Good Luck with the bulkhead, what landy is it from? If i'm honest with you i have very little spare time at present with all the work we have, but thats why i came up with an idea of a welding network on a nationwide basis where members could help each other without fear of being ripped off.

hey up mate
i have someone who is reasonably close from the forums who has offered to help me out, going to go see him soon. what welding network is it - do they rent or sell cheap welders???