help advice for sickly disco

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Guys I appreciate all the help.

I will check the earth bar and connections next to the ECU

Thank you for your paitence

Regards
D
 
Not wishing to confuse the issue, but DJB, is your disco Auto or Manual?

I had a fault on mine, (now fixed) but can only effect manual TD5's.

I wont go into details just yet, as to keep things simple, but is yours is not auto, then i might have something for you to check, (not electrical)
 
Actually, just reading this and thinking, ( apart from Charlseys argumentative and illogical ! ), its worth checking your battery voltage, as I remember a chap telling me a few years ago, who all kinds of running problems with a TD5 motor, that a new battery sorted it out.

Del.
 
Hi guys, ok new injector harnes, rocker gasket, fuel filter, air filter and front cam shaft seal is all here will fit tomorrow...
D
 
Mr. CharlesY, I dont want to intrude,


So, IMO plugging in a tester will at least reduce the diagnose area.

My advice for everybody with strange missfire which is not pump, filter or oil ingress related is to plug in tester ASAP cos i saw two times in the last 2 years(i admit this is not very common) this kind of missfire generated by a bad earth to ECM which ended up with ruined ECM.... there is an earth rail near the ECU with 3 points, always check the middle one to be perfect !!!


You can intrude all you like because your intrusions are sensible and helpful!

Can you ship a pic of the earth rail you mention?
Where exactly is this troublesome connection?
My TD5 Disco turned 93K miles today, so I will be happy to check an earth point tomorrow!
 
Ok what can I say, mixed emotions...
Fitted the new injector harness and head cover gasket.
Cleaned the MAP (?) sensor in the intake manifold that was completely caked in oily crud!!:eek:
Changed the fuel filter... I had no idea it got so very HOT...:suspicious:
New air filter .. and successfully broke of the plastic tabs of the air filter box :censored:

And it now appears to work... took it for a drive no issues... yet..
Whilst I am prepared to accept it was the loom ... there is a part of me that just can't remove the niggle in the back of my head that says something is still a miss.

Still want to get it plugged in and have all the faults cleared and then checked again...

So thank you ALL for the help, suggestions and support

D
 
You can intrude all you like because your intrusions are sensible and helpful!

Can you ship a pic of the earth rail you mention?
Where exactly is this troublesome connection?
My TD5 Disco turned 93K miles today, so I will be happy to check an earth point tomorrow!

I'll take a pic when i get home.... if u take off the battery cover, abeam left of the jack's compartment
 
Ok what can I say, mixed emotions...
Fitted the new injector harness and head cover gasket.
Cleaned the MAP (?) sensor in the intake manifold that was completely caked in oily crud!!:eek:
Changed the fuel filter... I had no idea it got so very HOT...:suspicious:
New air filter .. and successfully broke of the plastic tabs of the air filter box :censored:

And it now appears to work... took it for a drive no issues... yet..
Whilst I am prepared to accept it was the loom ... there is a part of me that just can't remove the niggle in the back of my head that says something is still a miss.

Still want to get it plugged in and have all the faults cleared and then checked again...

So thank you ALL for the help, suggestions and support

D
thats why doing one thing at time helps to prove what was definate fault ,although some faults can be a collection of small faults in a a lot of parts ,getting your own hawkeye or similar is a good idea ,even if it doesnt show your fault either by fault code or live data at least youve ruled out a lot of potential faults ,but pleased it seems better
 
Changed the fuel filter... I had no idea it got so very HOT..


In normal running, the fuel filter of all TD5s will get far too hot to hold on to.

The fuel gets VERY hot in the TD5 Injectors, so hot that it would not be safe to let it go back to the tank. So the fuel spilled from the injectors is mixed with the main flow passing through the gallery in the cylinder head. Then the very hot fuel coming back out of the cylinder head passes though a FUEL COOLER that uses the radiator return coolant to drop the fuel temperature to about 70°C, which is hot enough to cook meat.

This hot fuel is sent back to the fuel filter, and then it finds its way back into the fuel tank.

It is interesting to note that all this trouble took place, and NONE of diagnostic tools would have diagnosed it. They would have said there was no fault.
 
Changed the fuel filter... I had no idea it got so very HOT..


In normal running, the fuel filter of all TD5s will get far too hot to hold on to.

The fuel gets VERY hot in the TD5 Injectors, so hot that it would not be safe to let it go back to the tank. So the fuel spilled from the injectors is mixed with the main flow passing through the gallery in the cylinder head. Then the very hot fuel coming back out of the cylinder head passes though a FUEL COOLER that uses the radiator return coolant to drop the fuel temperature to about 70°C, which is hot enough to cook meat.

This hot fuel is sent back to the fuel filter, and then it finds its way back into the fuel tank.

It is interesting to note that all this trouble took place, and NONE of diagnostic tools would have diagnosed it. They would have said there was no fault.
since you seem so bitter ,its also interesting to note that injector loom you thought so insignificant needed changing, and diagnostic kit is extremely useful with td5
 
I assume this is your parting shot at jamesmartin ?.

Get your head out your arse you prick !!.

Del.


Not at all.
James and I get along just fine.
It was a comment intended to remind TD5 owners and others that, useful as they may be, diagnostic tools are far from capable of detecting many of the most basic and commonest faults that beset our TD5s.

Your choice of language reveals your nature well.
 
since you seem so bitter ,its also interesting to note that injector loom you thought so insignificant needed changing, and diagnostic kit is extremely useful with td5


Dear Me James,

You and that other fellow do seem to have great big chips on your shoulders.
As regards that injector loom you thought so insignificant, I never once said anything like that injector loom was 'so insignificant'.
Your imagination is running away with you again.
You need a bogey man, and that's me James!

Once again I ask, IN THIS CASE, in what way did any diagnostic tool assist in the resolution of the problem?
 
i think since you are the one making antagonistic posts you should check your own shoulders for chips and nose for out of joint ,as for injector loom get a carer to help you reads through your posts ,its not a competion to me but obviously you want to try and score points as i said before open a thread in anything goes if you want to be clever **** as it doesnt help on tech threads im happy to argue with you there
 
Pathetic !

You,ll have to do better than that to, " wind me in ", maybe an attack on my grammer and spelling ?.

Del.
If you insist.

This would be better.

You'll have to do better than that to "wind me in ". Maybe an attack on my grammar and spelling ?

I am not trying to wind you in, or indeed up.
YOU started the nastiness here, not me.
I have been the epitome of politeness thoughout.
Perhaps you are under some stress, or perhaps you just enjoy being an angry person. I don't know, and if the truth were to be told, nor do I care.
I still feel sorry for you though. I think you will grow out of it.
 
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