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My question is, if the dude pressure tested your head and said it was fine and fitted a new HG.. Why did it fail again??
Coolant exploded all over engine bay!!
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Also, why did the radiator not release the pressure? I thought there is a pressure release valve built in to prevent this??
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The Hg didn't fail again. The head was cracked and it wasn't picked up during the pressure test and skim.
It's built into the expansion tank cap but doesn't always release the pressure from there first.
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what about veggie oil, you say it was owned by a lady she might have put veggie oil in the water, no offence towards the ladies bot it has been known before
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In the way that the coolant aint circulating cos it should've mixed or in what it actually is?
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wot it is, to start with and the fact it aint mixed.
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Well, to be honest... I did the smell and taste test.. I had an old bottle of Halfords Anti freeze which smelled and looked the same. As it did not taste like diesel, I came to that conclusion,... But After speaking to Ratty, I think that there is a possibility of diesel mixed in.. Why else would it over pressurise and blow???? Just because I cant smell it, does not mean it it is not there.. I could easily be wrong.. I am not the most scientific of testers!!!
It also makes sense to rattys thoughts, because I took the car on the Motorway for an hour yesterday and took it to 85mph to test it's handling since fiddling with the steering box and tracking... That almost certainly would have put the head under a lot of pressure. If it had a weak point, I suspect that would have done it.... Then again, I could be wrong.. As strange as it sounds, I have been known to be wrong before!!!! LOL..
It also makes sense to rattys thoughts, because I took the car on the Motorway for an hour yesterday and took it to 85mph to test it's handling since fiddling with the steering box and tracking... That almost certainly would have put the head under a lot of pressure. If it had a weak point, I suspect that would have done it.... Then again, I could be wrong.. As strange as it sounds, I have been known to be wrong before!!!! LOL..
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Cheers Ratty...
I will get the results from the pressure testing tomorrow.. I will update then and then I will send the head away too!!
Thanks again all, I really appreciate the advice!
I will get the results from the pressure testing tomorrow.. I will update then and then I will send the head away too!!
Thanks again all, I really appreciate the advice!
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I'd hold fire on whipping the head off until you've tried eveything else first. If you get yourself a T piece from halfords or your local motor factors you can bypass the fuel cooler to eliminate that. If you do this, make sure you keep your fuel level fairly high as the returning fuel can heat the tank up quite a bit. You may get residual fuel from the system into your coolant still so you may need to flush the coolant syatem at least once while the cooler is bypassed.
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if it looks like cooking oil, smells like cooking oil and tastes like cooking oil then maybe it's cooking oil.. doesn't mean it hasn't leaked in from the fuel cooler though.. .
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*SNIFF* The results are back.....
Not good news....
1. Top hose split under pressure.
2. Caused by back pressure from cracked head
3. HG knackered.
4. Coolant bolt in engine leaking.
5. Crank Casing have crack (hidden underneath piles of old oil)
6. ABS module.. Not functioning
7. Exciter ring in front hub broken (HOW???????)
8. Engine wiring loom filled with oil.
This report was done by Harwoods LR.
*BOOOOO HOOOOO!!!!!* **SOB!!!*
My poor Boris. They say with a recon head, the parts total will be £2300.
What to do..... !?!? Hmmm... It may come to the point of repair and sell. or just repair the majors and sell, but either way. I think I am going to have to fine a new Boris...
Not good news....
1. Top hose split under pressure.
2. Caused by back pressure from cracked head
3. HG knackered.
4. Coolant bolt in engine leaking.
5. Crank Casing have crack (hidden underneath piles of old oil)
6. ABS module.. Not functioning
7. Exciter ring in front hub broken (HOW???????)
8. Engine wiring loom filled with oil.
This report was done by Harwoods LR.
*BOOOOO HOOOOO!!!!!* **SOB!!!*
My poor Boris. They say with a recon head, the parts total will be £2300.
What to do..... !?!? Hmmm... It may come to the point of repair and sell. or just repair the majors and sell, but either way. I think I am going to have to fine a new Boris...
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I am seriously considering a 110.. Probably a 2000 model county pack.. At least the seats will be a little softer! But, I have to say, I think it will be the same problems.. It still has the TD5 engine!!
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Sorry to hear that Mudrat. I wish my prognosis was wrong and it had simply been summit like a hose rubbed through.
I managed to find a good secondhand head for mine for £250. It cost me about £700 all in to sort mine out. Have you thought about a secondhand engine? You can usually pick one up of ebay for about £1000
A spanish head is only around £1200 new.
Oil in the loom isn't a major problem and tbh in most cases as long as you catch it early enough it's simply the cost of the new injector loom which you can get fitted when the head goes on (they cost about £40) and then your time spent cleaning the engine loom and plug afterwards.
ABS module could just be a dodgy connection/valve.
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I don't think so the fender has a much larger engine bay with better air flow around the motor. dosen't have the engine pan on the bottom Looks like a larger radiator and inner cooler than in the disco. and easier to service. So with more air flow around the motor, and a little slower highway speed the motor should last longer. On the Mileage survey that Hippo did looks like the defenders put on more miles than the rest of the LR family.Also looking over the threads on repairs looks like a 3-1 ratios of head and radiator problems with the disco having the most trouble( with the fender being the 1)
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If you look for a 2002 onwards you should minimise the risk of a cracked head. 1999-2001 were the early problematic engines.
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Thanks for info ratty. You earned your chips today. Remember looking at turner engineering and seeing 2 different heads for td5. and wondering whyIf you look for a 2002 onwards you should minimise the risk of a cracked head. 1999-2001 were the early problematic engines.
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