X-Eng's X-Lite Azimuth or X-Lite bulbs filling with water

Is anyone using these?



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My bulbs are constantly filling with water, how about yours? I've tried LED bulbs but they are too directional and too weak.

I haven't spoken to Simon, the owner yet as I just wanted to see what other set ups were like.

I will follow this as I was looking to get both flood and spots

12v dichloric ****e by any chance

drewster said:

I will follow this as I was looking to get both flood and spots

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Don't get the flood , get waterproof ones!

fanatic said:

12v dichloric ****e by any chance

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That sounds like the ones - basically interior bulbs.

They are made interior not exterior. See how the water is getting in.
I made some at work & the only way it can get in is the front.

666 george said:

See how the water is getting in.

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The bulb itself is a sealed unit.



I suppose it's seaping throught the edges. I might silicon one and see if if helps.

possibly a silicone gasket as they get extremely hot, not a fan of these as you may have guessed.

If the fitting is filling with water then it is a design issue, the lamp should be sealed and if it is filling with water try a different make.

Personally these are too expensive for what they are

Thats why i made my own. Mount in a different way & cost me all of £40 for the anodising.
A lot better than £40 each plus some way of mounting them.

The fitting isn't sealed so water enters the front as in the photo. How it gets inside the sealed bulb I don't know - but it does

It gets in cos the lamps aren't sealed. Funnily enough the makers didn't design them to be waterproof.
They are also quite good at filling up with water when the plumbers have been round and poured water through the ceiling.

Well, it's traditional for lights on Land Rovers to be full of water. When I bought mine I took them apart and dried them out inside with tissues, thinking I was doing it a favour. But after having driven around in the rain they were all wet inside again. The only one that doesn't do that is the high level brake light in my rear window, but that's because it's inside. It's not just me either
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So the X Eng accessory is in good company, and takes its design inspiration from the very best traditions of Solihull engineering.

I've purchased some LED lights to replace them. They seem to have stayed watertight since fitting and the speed at which they illuminate is stunning - literally instant!

Just need to buy some stainless circlips to replace the rusty wire.

Are they just MR16 bulbs

Vinniejb said:

Are they just MR16 bulbs

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Yes - not designed for external use.

davethsparky said:

It gets in cos the lamps aren't sealed. Funnily enough the makers didn't design them to be waterproof.
They are also quite good at filling up with water when the plumbers have been round and poured water through the ceiling.

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Funny you should mention this - I screwed straight through a pipe on the landing last Wednesday and I had water pouring out of the lights in the kitchen below.

Im surprised by these TBH, how long do they lamps last, they ain't designed for outdoor use, let alone shaking and bashing about.

I bet the LED ones don't last long cos:
A. most of em don't like anything other than stabilised 12V up em
B. they won't take kindly to the electronics getting wet, cos they defiantly are not sealed.

timtheenchanteruk said:

Im surprised by these TBH, how long do they lamps last, they ain't designed for outdoor use, let alone shaking and bashing about.

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Even though the old ones were half full of water, none of them blew. They just looked ugly.

timtheenchanteruk said:

I bet the LED ones don't last long cos:
A. most of em don't like anything other than stabilised 12V up em
B. they won't take kindly to the electronics getting wet, cos they defiantly are not sealed.

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Only time will tell.

Typical X-Eng ****e Overpriced and underdeveloped, and shabbily made. Oh and they probably stole the idea off someone else..

redhand said:

Typical X-Eng ****e Overpriced and underdeveloped, and shabbily made. Oh and they probably stole the idea off someone else..

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Don't beat around the bush man, say what you mean.

auf_wiedersehen_pet said:

I've purchased some LED lights to replace them. They seem to have stayed watertight since fitting and the speed at which they illuminate is stunning - literally instant!

Just need to buy some stainless circlips to replace the rusty wire.

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Hi. I've done exactly the same with mine. Been on the landy now for 4 months and no probs. but tbh they cost £2 each and take a minute to fit so no biggy if they do go.

They give a nice crisp, white light that hasn't got a focal point. So no bright spot in center of beam and no dim edges.

Pughy.