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Hippo said:
If yours has one fitted then we'll need pic's. Surely tc would overcome spinning wheels so you wouldn't need one?
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Pics of what? Diff? it looks normal, just have different internals ;) , Drives very cool. TC with brakes "tells" to it to start locking up (but it never looks at 100%) Works like any other torsen mechanism in Disco or Defender
 
Duncp73 said:
Not this time I afraid. I'll be working that weekend now. Thanks for changing it though, hopefully you'll get some Freelanders going. I do take mine laning, I started a thread if you want to have a look.

Did you have a good day out today?
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Yes thanks, had a great day. Lanes were tame but it was fun to meet everyone and we ended up playing in a ford, got some great pics :D:D
 
Winu said:
Pics of what? Diff? it looks normal, just have different internals ;) , Drives very cool. TC with brakes "tells" to it to start locking up (but it never looks at 100%) Works like any other torsen mechanism in Disco or Defender
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Where did you get the torsen? I had one in my Rover Vitesse which worked well. I want one!
 
Quaife ATB LSD ;)

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To use it you need a newer type diff with larger diff bearings. New types have on case 51441 numbers, older will have 47098
If you had older one (like in my case)- you need a new type of casing - from scrap or ebay.

To build your new diff you need a:
1x Quaife QDF31K ~ 700 GBP

Rebuild kit:
2 x TZZ100160 - driveshaft bearings
2 x TOC100000 - driveshaft seal
1 x TZZ100150- flange bearing
1 x TXT100010 - pinion collapsible spacer
1 x TZZ100140 - Pinion bearing
2 x TZZ100170 - Diff Bearings
1 x FTC5258 - Pinion seal
1 x FTC5317 - Pinion dust cover
1 x TBH100020 - shim set

about 250 GBP for set.

According to yours diff condition probably you will need (or not):
- a new pinion and ring wheel set ~ 125 GBP from Ashcroft.
- TBH100030 shim set for proper slash adjusting ~ 140 GBP :)eek:)

Put it together, and drive :D . Of course this is not a full locker and never be. But is very useful on occasional off road situations, on snow, ice ect. Here is a quote about using it with TC system by Ian from Ashcroft

Finally and most successful(in my opinion) is the automatic traction control found on later vehicles, this will automatically apply load to the wheel with least/no grip and this in turn is multiplied by the diff to apply load to the wheel with traction.
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Winu said:
Quaife ;)

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To use it you need a newer type diff with larger diff bearings. New types have on case 51441 numbers, older will have 47098
If you had older one (like in my case)- you need a new type of casing - from scrap or ebay.

To build your new diff you need a:
1x Quaife QDF31K ~ 700 GBP

Rebuild kit:
2 x TZZ100160 - driveshaft bearings
2 x TOC100000 - driveshaft seal
1 x TZZ100150- flange bearing
1 x TXT100010 - pinion collapsible spacer
1 x TZZ100140 - Pinion bearing
2 x TZZ100170 - Diff Bearings
1 x FTC5258 - Pinion seal
1 x FTC5317 - Pinion dust cover
1 x TBH100020 - shim set

about 250 GBP for set.

According to yours diff condition probably you will need (or not):
- a new pinion and ring wheel set ~ 125 GBP from Ashcroft.
- TBH100030 shim set for proper slash adjusting ~ 140 GBP :)eek:)

Put it together, and drive :D
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It looks like and is priced like any other Quaife torque biasing diff. Would you know if it is bespoke to the Freelander or has it been pinched from another car that just happens to share the same dimensions?
I fitted Quaife TBD to a Talbot Sunbeam Lotus many years ago with superb results :)
 
But Torsen in 220 Turbo was in gearbox IIRC i suspect that you can't put it in rear diff.
In FL (PG1) gearbox don't have a diff inside, it was moved to IRD. The 220 Diff will fit in to IRD?

It looks like and is priced like any other Quaife torque biasing diff. Would you know if it is bespoke to the Freelander or has it been pinched from another car that just happens to share the same dimensions?
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Sorry, but i don't have any info about that ;)
 
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Winu said:
But Torsen in 220 Turbo was in gearbox IIRC i suspect that you can't put it in rear diff.
In FL (PG1) gearbox don't have a diff inside, it was moved to IRD. The 220 Diff will fit in to IRD?


Sorry, but i don't have any info about that ;)
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Yes it should be movable not seen a freelander diff but had a rover tomcat. Thats about the price I paid for my quaife lsd in me vec. Mhm wasn't tomcat diff on the back of the box?
 
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Thinking about it, the pg1 torsen diff is a very different shape to that of the freelander. It's much shorter across the alxe so is unlikely to fit. Looks like I've got some saving to do? :)
 
Lets face it if it wasn't for the Freelander their probably wouldn't be a Land Rover at all, when it was first produced it quickly became the fastest selling 4x4 in Europe, all at a time when Land Rover were struggling for cash, it remained at the top of the sales charts for quite a few years as well, so whichever Land Rover you own we all owe a debt to the Hairdressers & Yummy Mummys that bought them ;)
 
matacaibo said:
Lets face it if it wasn't for the Freelander their probably wouldn't be a Land Rover at all, when it was first produced it quickly became the fastest selling 4x4 in Europe, all at a time when Land Rover were struggling for cash, it remained at the top of the sales charts for quite a few years as well, so whichever Land Rover you own we all owe a debt to the Hairdressers & Yummy Mummys that bought them ;)
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Really ??

Land Rover, Defender, Discovery, Range Rover & Freelander

Year..........Total.........Defender.........RangeRover.........Discovery.........Freelander
......................................................Classic MKI/II
1989......55,240......23,437............28,509.......0.........3, 296.................0
1990......68,471......21,210............24,194.......0........23,067.................0
1991......54,588......18,915............16,412.......0........19,261.................0
1992......57,062......17,416............15,334.......0........24,312.................0
1993......67,910......17,482............14,780.......0........67,910.................0
1994......93,100......22,265............13,667....2,669....54,499.................0
1995..... 127,158....27,600..............4,000..25,639....69,919.................0
1996......126,578....31,724.....................0..29,815....65,039.................0
1997......127,962....36,169.....................0..30,066....58,352..........3,375

Totals.....778,069...216,218.........116,894...88,189..385,655.........3,375

Yep Gaylanders really pulled LR out of an economic blackhole when it was introduced..
 
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matacaibo said:
Lets face it if it wasn't for the Freelander their probably wouldn't be a Land Rover at all, when it was first produced it quickly became the fastest selling 4x4 in Europe, all at a time when Land Rover were struggling for cash, it remained at the top of the sales charts for quite a few years as well, so whichever Land Rover you own we all owe a debt to the Hairdressers & Yummy Mummys that bought them ;)
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Find that hard to believe since the range rover has always been a strong SuV world wide, it create the sports utility market and remains the most prestigious of all the suvs. Bmw made the freelander to celebrate its 50th birthday flop or not the brand was still going well. It was the rest of rover that was dying badly. It was and I've said this before the very best in its class. As the range rover is the best in its class.
 
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