Freelander 1 Vac pipe just hanging there.

puddlejumper · Mar 23, 2021

Hi folks
Recently fitted an EGR delete to my 54 plate Td4 (prefacelift) and while blanking the vac pipe it came off at the other end to the EGR valve. Once I’d worked out where it refitted I noticed another vac pipe next to it that was just hanging loose. It’s a fairly long pipe so I don’t really know where it goes to. Anyone able to help me please??
Thanks

Nodge68 · Mar 23, 2021

It's interesting to see a pre-facelift on a 54 plate, when the first facelift FL1s were on 53 plate.!

As for the vacuum pipework.
The system is split into 2 sections, both joining together near the vacuum accumulator.
The EGR vacuum supply comes from the vac pump, which is fed straight to the brake booster on a large pipe (primary vacuum rail).
There are 2 smaller tippings off the primary vac rail, the one closest to the vac pump goes to the vacuum accumulator, and on to the turbo control system, as in this picture.

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The other tapping from the primary vac rail goes forward to the EGR control solenoid, which is under the manifold, then on to the EGR valve.

So if you have an open pipe, there's something not connected, which will effect the whole vacuum system.

A picture of the offending open pipe could help.

puddlejumper · Mar 23, 2021

Hi Nodge
Thanks for that, it’s very much appreciated. I shall pop out now and take some pics. I was also surprised at it being a prefacelift on a 54 plate as I have had a previous freelander on a 54 plate which was the facelift model.
Thanks again, I’ll pop out now to take some pics.

puddlejumper · Mar 23, 2021

Nodge68 said:
It's interesting to see a pre-facelift on a 54 plate, when the first facelift FL1s were on 53 plate.!

As for the vacuum pipework.
The system is split into 2 sections, both joining together near the vacuum accumulator.
The EGR vacuum supply comes from the vac pump, which is fed straight to the brake booster on a large pipe (primary vacuum rail).
There are 2 smaller tippings off the primary vac rail, the one closest to the vac pump goes to the vacuum accumulator, and on to the turbo control system, as in this picture. View attachment 233939

The other tapping from the primary vac rail goes forward to the EGR control solenoid, which is under the manifold, then on to the EGR valve.

So if you have an open pipe, there's something not connected, which will effect the whole vacuum system.

A picture of the offending open pipe could help.

as suggested here is pics of the article

puddlejumper · Mar 23, 2021

And another one, the pipe with the yellow plug is the one that went to the EGR valve.
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puddlejumper · Mar 23, 2021

Pic of front end too
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I’m guessing that’s a prefacelift??

Nodge68 · Mar 23, 2021

puddlejumper said:
as suggested here is pics of the article
View attachment 233940 View attachment 233940

That pipe goes to the EGR control solenoid valve, and now won't go anywhere, although it would normally be plugged up to the stump of the EGR bypass, unless you have a horrible bypass that doesn't support the exhaust pipe correctly.

Nodge68 · Mar 23, 2021

puddlejumper said:
Pic of front end too
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I’m guessing that’s a prefacelift??

The front is a pre-facelift, but is the inside also a pre-facelift, as the interior is completely different between pre and post facelift.

puddlejumper · Mar 23, 2021

Nodge68 said:
The front is a pre-facelift, but is the inside also a pre-facelift?

Yep, all very olde worlde in there

Nodge68 · Mar 23, 2021

puddlejumper said:
Yep, all very olde worlde in there

Presumably it sat at a dealer, unsold for 12 months then.

Nodge68 · Mar 23, 2021

puddlejumper said:
as suggested here is pics of the article
View attachment 233940 View attachment 233940

Does your EGR bypass have the stup to support the exhaust transfer pipe?
It should look like this one.

puddlejumper · Mar 23, 2021

Nodge68 said:
Does your EGR bypass have the stup to support the exhaust transfer pipe?
It should look like this one. View attachment 233943

There’s no bit for the vac pipe to attach to but apart from that it looks like the one in your pic. In fact it’s this one here http://www.egr-delete.co.uk/product/land-rover-freelander-td4-egr-removal-kit/

Nodge68 · Mar 23, 2021

puddlejumper said:
There’s no bit for the vac pipe to attach to but apart from that it looks like the one in your pic. In fact it’s this one here http://www.egr-delete.co.uk/product/land-rover-freelander-td4-egr-removal-kit/

As long as it has the support for the exhaust pipe, then it'll be OK. Some don't have the important exhaust pipe support, so allowing the pipe to vibrate and crack, which is an expensive and difficult thing to repair.

If you plug the vac pipe before the control solenoid, then the handing pipe may be removed completely.

Just keep in mind that EGR valve removal is now an MOT failure, if the tester spots it, which is why I fitted the delete which looks OE, I even painted it black to help hide it. It worked too, and passed 2 MOTs with it fitted.

puddlejumper · Mar 23, 2021

Nodge68 said:
As long as it has the support for the exhaust pipe, then it'll be OK. Some don't have the important exhaust pipe support, so allowing the pipe to vibrate and crack, which is an expensive and difficult thing to repair.

If you plug the vac pipe before the control solenoid, then the handing pipe may be removed completely.

Just keep in mind that EGR valve removal is now an MOT failure, if the tester spots it, which is why I fitted the delete which looks OE, I even painted it black to help hide it. It worked too, and passed 2 MOTs with it fitted.

The guy I use for MOT is what I call a pragmatist

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