Classic -Two Problems Spring Related-87MY 3.5L V8 Manual

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shocker said:
By heavy towing I mean towing up to the rated capability of the vehicle.
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Cool - much the same as we use them for. IMHO standard are up to the task

shocker said:
My health and disability mean that any work done needs to stay done as I am less able as time goes by. At a faster rate than the usual aging progress would account for.
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That sounds familiar - I have a muscle wasting disease....( & a load of other related conditions too :rolleyes: )

shocker said:
And yes, the vehicle will be loaded at times, but not with "junk".
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Apologies - I meant "stuff" - not rubbish :eek:.

shocker said:
On the Br!tpart front, to head off the inevitible slagging, I have found that a lot of their parts are fine...its the ones with moving parts inside them I have had trouble with, like the notorious 300tdi water pumps.
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Agreed. BP "OEM" is usually Ok, but better safe than sorry when it comes to stuff like water pumps, wheel bearings and other such bits:)
 
Thanks mate, good to know about the tow capability. Just what are the pros and cons of HD versus regular springs on a RRC? I know its been touched on in other threads but the conclusions were a bit contradictory. I assumed that HD would be better without thinking it through.

Im sorry to hear about your muscle wasting...what an absolute bugger. At least mine are just turning to fat.
 
shocker said:
Just what are the pros and cons of HD versus regular springs on a RRC?
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Long story short, IME, HD will increase NVH and thus decrease comfort in normal use. AFAIK, The coppers specified HD due them carrying lots of "stuff" in the back more or less all the time, which would cause the standard springs to sag...

I would have thought that the state of the roads nowadays would make HD stuff unbearable - certainly to me it is unbearable.

I could tell you a long winded story about spending time in copper spec'd RRC's ( cousin was high up in the cops ), and then had a new RRC myself every year for a number of years, and used it much as you propose - never a problem. Have you looked in RAVE, to see if it mentions HD springs ?

shocker said:
Im sorry to hear about your muscle wasting...what an absolute bugger. At least mine are just turning to fat.
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Thanks :) . Your condition doesn't sound much better TBH - the pain is the thing that gets on my t*ts :mad: ( and taking 60 tablets a day, and trying to keep same in stock at home when, on occasion, there is some pr*t in charge of the pharmacy :rolleyes: ).
 
Tell me about it! My place is like a chemists graveyard. But...really...60?? I thought that my count of 30 odd a day was bad! Just shows, theres always someone worse off.

As you say, keeping in stock is a big problem when the pharmacy cannot manage and you cannot get a doctors appointment in time for your meds. And when you do you get a "dispensing nurse" who cant write the scripts for pain meds. Or a G.P that "doesnt believe in prescribing pain medication" and sends you on a course of yoga. And travel? Forget it. I have family in the US that I havnt seen for decades but if I tried to fly in with a couple of days meds I would end up in Federal Jail for trafficking. Sheesh.

Mutter, mutter, complain, moan etc...exits stage left in cloud of self pity, talking to invisible friends
 
Jeez louise guys, counting my lucky stars here with the occasional ibuprofen....

Someone close to me has a serious 'disorder' invovling muscles, she/he scoured the net and chanced upon QUELL, she/he went from almost morphine daily to something much less, albeit daily. This device has transformed her pain, and with 'vorsprung physio' is on the road to recovery. But this device changed her life in 4 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Please do, it c. £250. It's American, it's undergoing the last stages for Euro approval but it's such a delightful piece of tech, it interrupts the pain somehow from a simple device worn on the knee. QUELL
 
Right, got the website. My mrs is an electronics engineer and physicist and she is going to look it over after she has watched her weekly cryptocurrency news show. I have had the Tens machine for years and given up on...I had such high hopes and it was a real letdown.

However, this from what you say sounds like a go-er. When the US side of the family start speaking to me again I shall ask them what they know of it. Some of them are paramedics (well were, they are retired now) and they are always up on different, breaking healthcare stuff. They may have some more first hand.

Thank you so much, MFL, for taking the time to tell me about it. Super cool!
 
A bit late, but...I fitted the rear standard duty springs and the RRC still has a O/S lean.
New shocks and ditto angle.
Serious chassis welding - sides and top of lengthwise members replaced from middle cross member to fuel tank. Aforesaid cross member plated over, anti-sway damper re-seated. Rear-spring top brackets strengthened. No tilt improvement.
Body mounts inspected, no problems detected.
New tyres all round, rims checked out...no help here either.
Now the rear lower tailgate will not shut on the O/S, does not close far enough to engage latch on pin, beyond the help of the minor adjustment possible. Though this may be unconnected and due to the rotten back door leaving its hinges, it does seem to be a bit of a suspicious "co-incidence".

I have not done any welding to the back O/S body before or since noticing how bad the lean is, but I did do the N/S/R wheel arch (and surrounding area) plus the side wall/floor behind it, this time last year.

I have become quite worried and, more recently, out of ideas. I mean, its good to do all this maintenance, of course, but its getting in the way of running repairs and definitely putting off the improvements that were planned. Theres not enough :
a) hours in the day
b) life in the shocker, or
c) money in the pocket, for me to continue replacing anything that could possibly be responsible.

I mean, its an RRC. Built in the 80s by British Leyland.... EVERYTHING NEEDS REPLACING.
 
Could be, have not seen it mentioned... but post head injuries I am not the brightest spark in the cylinder. New springs were not labelled thus. When I took out the old ones they were markedly different lengths but I put that down to one having lost its temper (as it were) causing the original droop.

Good point, thanks Saint! I will chase up on this later today. Anyone else?
 
Saint.V8 said:
This mat have been mentioned in a previous post - but aren't the Classic springs handed? One side is longer than the other to account for the engine torque and the weight of the driver when riding alone!?!
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My previous post giving the answer to this question was taken from the manuf. W/S manual. Only LHD models & diesels have handed springs, not V8's. In my case I corrected, well nearly anyway, a slight off-side lean (with new genuine coils & dampers all round) by fitting the 10mm rubber/plastic insulation rings fitted to late RRC's above the offside coils only.
 
Thanks Norsey!

got new Bearmach springs and Br!tpart dampers on back, cannot afford LR ones. Do you have a part No. for the rings, please?
 
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