Tow ball..tow plate.. this aint right? pics

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MrJC

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My 110 came with a tow bar and ball... I have had light trailers on but nothing heavy. I have been offered the use of a nice caravan so I needed to replace the old tow ball with a AL-KO tow ball and just swapped them.
I was at my independant Landy mans today and he looked at my tow set up and said the 'plate' looked upside down and towing a caravan would put strain on it and may rip it off:eek:

I went home and took the tow ball and plate off..... tried turning it upside down.... tried raising it up to go through the x member... nope it don't fit any other way. I was trying to get 6 bolts in.

Tried some research..... from what I can make out it seems that I have a 6 hole drop plate and it shouldn't be on my tow bar?

You can see from this link the 6 hole drop plate... http://www.just-tow.co.uk/towbar-accessories/drop-plates.html

You can see what set up I have from the pics.... can someone point me in the right direction please? I will be towing a 5 berth caravan with an AL-KO set up. I was thinking I needed a plate with 4 holes in bolted to the 4 holes on my tow bar with the bottom one have the tow ball on to give it more strength. But I aint got a clue.

Also....I have put the AL-KO tow ball on the bottom 2 holes in the tow bar and its 21 inches or 53cms from the road to the top of the tow ball.... is this too high for most caravans? I have 265/75/r16 tryres.

Any ideas folks?... I wont compromise safety but rather than take it to a tow specialist thought I would ask first as it may be a simple fix. :)
 

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I once had a steel plate made up to get the tow ball at the right height to tow a small light trailer, that looks very similar, probably a DIY effort.

No way could you tow a caravan with that, you need a Dixon Bate type set up, with these the tow ball can be adjusted to the correct height you need.

Mark,
 
My 110 came with a tow bar and ball... I have had light trailers on but nothing heavy. I have been offered the use of a nice caravan so I needed to replace the old tow ball with a AL-KO tow ball and just swapped them.
I was at my independant Landy mans today and he looked at my tow set up and said the 'plate' looked upside down and towing a caravan would put strain on it and may rip it off:eek:

I went home and took the tow ball and plate off..... tried turning it upside down.... tried raising it up to go through the x member... nope it don't fit any other way. I was trying to get 6 bolts in.

Tried some research..... from what I can make out it seems that I have a 6 hole drop plate and it shouldn't be on my tow bar?

You can see from this link the 6 hole drop plate... http://www.just-tow.co.uk/towbar-accessories/drop-plates.html

You can see what set up I have from the pics.... can someone point me in the right direction please? I will be towing a 5 berth caravan with an AL-KO set up. I was thinking I needed a plate with 4 holes in bolted to the 4 holes on my tow bar with the bottom one have the tow ball on to give it more strength. But I aint got a clue.

Also....I have put the AL-KO tow ball on the bottom 2 holes in the tow bar and its 21 inches or 53cms from the road to the top of the tow ball.... is this too high for most caravans? I have 265/75/r16 tryres.

Any ideas folks?... I wont compromise safety but rather than take it to a tow specialist thought I would ask first as it may be a simple fix. :)

It's only meant to be able to be bolted by 2 of the holes.;)

After fitting HD springs to my previous 110, the towball was still too high to tow my twin axle (1300kg) caravan even with the drop hitch on the lowest setting. I fitted a 6" drop plate and that allowed it to sit level. I never had any problems with the drop plate bending with the caravan on the back (even after performing a couple of emergency stops). I did however manage to bend it while recovering a vehicle one day (the vehicle was on it's roof in an L shaped barn and it fell through a pit that somebody had tried to hide/fill using 1" wooden planks and a 1" skim of concete. My landy was stopped dead in its tracks as the towed vehicle dropped into the hole. The plate bent out by about 5mm. I then bought 2 of the 6" drop plates and welded them together around the outer edges. I never managed to bend that even when towing trucks up to 10 tons in weight.
 
It's only meant to be able to be bolted by 2 of the holes.;)

After fitting HD springs to my previous 110, the towball was still too high to tow my twin axle (1300kg) caravan even with the drop hitch on the lowest setting. I fitted a 6" drop plate and that allowed it to sit level. I never had any problems with the drop plate bending with the caravan on the back (even after performing a couple of emergency stops). I did however manage to bend it while recovering a vehicle one day (the vehicle was on it's roof in an L shaped barn and it fell through a pit that somebody had tried to hide/fill using 1" wooden planks and a 1" skim of concete. My landy was stopped dead in its tracks as the towed vehicle dropped into the hole. The plate bent out by about 5mm. I then bought 2 of the 6" drop plates and welded them together around the outer edges. I never managed to bend that even when towing trucks up to 10 tons in weight.

snigger my suspicions are confirmed-your a pikey in training
 
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The twisting forces on the top two bolts as originally fitted will be enormous.
The plate will bend and almost certainly fail at some point.
I would go with the recomendation above for the proper drop plate set up.
At least 4 m16 bolts to fix the drop plate to the vehicle and it will be the mutts nutts.
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Lynall


Isn't that only half a drop plate???
 
Thanks gents.... someone has mentioned EEC regs and stuff pluss if it fails I could find myself uninsured. I will take it to a tow bar bar :) after Easter and report back.

I think the EEC regs regarding type approved tow bars only relate to vehicles made after 1998?
 
I had a drop plate on my disco just like that, iv towed all sorts with it, a car trailer with a disco on it, never had any problems

I got my plate from the caravan shop £6.99
 
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