TD5 standard map is it sthle022 sttlp009

raywin · Nov 8, 2019

I have a Defender 90 TD5 2001 with a 15P engineand a NNN000120 ECU
I am trying to find a copy of the standard map for this, I downloaded the Nanocom map wizard which should generate the maps and as far as I can see the map needed is : sthle022 sttlp009.
Anyone able to confirm this?
Has anyone used a map from this Nancom generator?

tom1979 · Nov 8, 2019

I have a 2000 TD5 90 10P with a NNN000120 ECU and running that base map. Never loaded one from the nanocom generator though....

raywin · Nov 8, 2019

tom1979 said:
I have a 2000 TD5 90 10P with a NNN000120 ECU and running that base map. Never loaded one from the nanocom generator though....

That's interesting, would have expected the 10p to use a different map to the 15p.

tom1979 · Nov 8, 2019

raywin said:
That's interesting, would have expected the 10p to use a different map to the 15p.

I got a new ecu (from a disco) and that’s the base map Dynachip put on it. I just assumed that was right, it might not be

raywin · Nov 8, 2019

tom1979 said:
I got a new ecu (from a disco) and that’s the base map Dynachip put on it. I just assumed that was right, it might not be

If it runs well then that should be fine, I'm sure it would throw up something if it was wrong.

tom1979 · Nov 8, 2019

raywin said:
If it runs well then that should be fine, I'm sure it would throw up something if it was wrong.

Funnily enough it’s not, it won’t go over 80mph!

raywin · Nov 8, 2019

tom1979 said:
Funnily enough it’s not, it won’t go over 80mph!

Cant imagine 80mph in a defender

tom1979 · Nov 8, 2019

raywin said:
Cant imagine 80mph in a defender

with a stage 3 remap and VNT? Should be easy! Gets there quick enough then dies off

neilly · Nov 8, 2019

raywin said:
Cant imagine 80mph in a defender

Yep, in a soft top.300tdi.
try 85MPH, obviously it was a private runway.

Cheers

raywin · Nov 8, 2019

tom1979 said:
with a stage 3 remap and VNT? Should be easy! Gets there quick enough then dies off

I'm sure it can be done, it's just the thought of hurting along in a vehicle that rattles like an MFI wardrobe at 25 mph

sierrafery · Nov 9, 2019

raywin said:
I have a Defender 90 TD5 2001 with a 15P engineand a NNN000120 ECU
I am trying to find a copy of the standard map for this, I downloaded the Nanocom map wizard which should generate the maps and as far as I can see the map needed is : sthle022 sttlp009.
Anyone able to confirm this?
Has anyone used a map from this Nancom generator?

sthle022 sttlp009 is a Eu2 fuel map suitable for NNN000120 so not good for Eu3(15P) engine, standard Eu3 map for early 90 Td5 is SVLNE 004 SVTNP 003 , Eu3 maps are all starting with SV

i attach the standard fuel map lists for Eu2 and Eu3 and see for yourself

raywin · Nov 10, 2019

sierrafery said:
sthle022 sttlp009 is a Eu2 fuel map suitable for NNN000120 so not good for Eu3(15P) engine, standard Eu3 map for early 90 Td5 is SVLNE 004 SVTNP 003 , Eu3 maps are all starting with SV

i attach the standard fuel map lists for Eu2 and Eu3 and see for yourself

Thanks for your help on this.
So the other maps, 006, 007 are they later evolved releases with better emissions etc, or are they just releases which include control for later included devices on the vehicle.
My engine at the moment is a Jekyll and hyde when it's cold it tends to smoke and sounds slightly rough, when it's hot it pulls well, doesn't smoke and sounds smoother than I have ever heard it.
MOT on Tuesday so I will be giving it a bit of a run first.

sierrafery · Nov 10, 2019

raywin said:
My engine at the moment is a Jekyll and hyde when it's cold it tends to smoke and sounds slightly rough, when it's hot it pulls well, doesn't smoke and sounds smoother than I have ever heard it.

Did you check glow plugs functionality?

as about the fuel maps i dont know what's the difference though do you know what map you have now ?

raywin · Nov 10, 2019

sierrafery said:
Did you check glow plugs functionality?

as about the fuel maps i dont know what's the difference though do you know what map you have now ?

The glow plugs were changed a couple of years ago and while I cant say 100% they are good the engine starts instantly at a touch of the key, roughness seems to go on for quite a while untill the engine is up to full temperature, maybe 8 or 10 miles
I cant get the name of the map thats in there I downloaded it onto an sd card using nanocom but it just shows .MAP file, Nanocom askes you to give it a name when you try to save it.
I downloaded the Nanocom map Wizard some time ago Arround 2016, and it gennerates a .MAP file of 117 Kb with the correct name, but It just worries me to put everything in the hands of a downloaded file,
The reason that Im looking at this is the Defender had a piggyback tuning chip on it when I bought it ( now removerd) and I wondered if they also used a custom map to suit that chip it would be nice to upload a good clean version of the correct map or any subsequent updated map put out by Land Rover to improve engine stability.

sierrafery · Nov 10, 2019

For the fuel map ID ane config ID you dont need the map wizzard, it's shown in td5 engine - settings - info

raywin · Nov 10, 2019

sierrafery said:
For the fuel map ID ane config ID you dont need the map wizzard, it's shown in td5 engine - settings - info

Just been out and checked that.
SVTNP 003 SVLNE 004
So that seems to be correct.
Well I can rule that out and look elsewhere.
I thought the MAF reading was low at about 360, to 380 and it seemed to run better with the sensor disconnected so I ordered a new MAF sensor from island, new one reads higher at just over 400 peak.

sierrafery · Nov 10, 2019

raywin said:
I ordered a new MAF sensor from island, new one reads higher at just over 400 peak.

If it's not genuine LR it's irrelevant, better drive without it... do you still have catalyst?

raywin · Nov 10, 2019

sierrafery said:
If it's not genuine LR it's irrelevant, better drive without it... do you still have catalyst?

I took the cat off last year, you can feel quite a difference when it's not there I suspect its sooted up.
when I stripped the engine numbers one and five pistons were more sooty than the others, I had the injectors from those cylinders re built.
I will give it a run tomorrow with the MA F disconnected and see how it goes.

sierrafery · Nov 10, 2019

If it wasnt ever cleaned clean th MAP sensor as well

raywin · Nov 11, 2019

sierrafery said:
If it wasnt ever cleaned clean th MAP sensor as well

I changed the MAP sensor at the same time as the MAF a couple of weeks ago.

So today I did a 150 mile run, disconnected the MAF for the first 10 miles, it was better when cold but seemed to lack power as it became hotter, so I re connected it, and it was better.
It seems to relate temperature, I'm not sure if the system modifies the fuelling with the temperature or how this would be assessed I.e water temperature or air temperature or even fuel temperature, I wonder if it gets a poor reading from one of them.

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