Suspension Lift with old shocks?

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Kenelmh

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Hi all, another question.

When I finaly get all my bigger Landy issues sorted... :eek: I fancied getting a lift but can I just put some longer springs on? I am only looking for an extra 2"s nothing obscene!

That would seem a really nice cheap way to get a lift. But will it cause any issues?

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this is standard shock next to my +2" lift shock

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what do you think :doh:
 
FFS!!! This has been covered loads of times on here! :search: Simply fitting longer springs is not enough. As an absolute minimum you should also fit longer shocks to match, and longer brake lines. If you want you landy to go round corners after the lift, you need to fit camber corrected radius arms and cranked trailing arms. Then, unless you want to be forever changing your propshafts, you should also fit wide angle propshafts. Then, after you have done all of this, you will still have a landy that handles even worse than standard because you have raised the COG. Especially if you fit bigger tyres. Ask yourself if you really need a 2" extra height, because unless you are going to be doing some really challenging off roading, a standard landy (Gaylander excepted) on decent AT/Mud tyres will be perfectly capable off road, and the downsides of a lift will outweigh the benefits.
 
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Thanks for the replies!

Will be sticking with standard suspensions methinks. It's just one corner is sagging a bit so was going to replace spring if need be and wondered what options were there.

Thanks again!
 
you do not need to fit camber corrected radius arms and cranked trailing arms or fit wide angle propshafts for a 2" lift

+3 yes you might need to do some of the other mods but not all

i have 2" lifts on both my trucks and the only thing i changed was spring,shocks, extended bump stops, dislocation cones and on the 90 extended brake lines. i did my lifts for bigger tyres and better articulation off road.
 
It about £600 for a half decent set of shocks springs caster arms, extended bump stops and brake lines does that sound cheap to say it is all over the road put it back to standard?
 
Hi all, another question.

When I finaly get all my bigger Landy issues sorted... :eek: I fancied getting a lift but can I just put some longer springs on? I am only looking for an extra 2"s nothing obscene!

That would seem a really nice cheap way to get a lift. But will it cause any issues?

:blabla:


Yes you can.........

Why do want a lift kit? Bigger tyres?

Same size diameter tyres lift kit is a bit pointless fit new std all round and the motor will stand up (better than most LR's) as it did when new.

If your fitting bigger tyres. Then.... depending on how big and wide 32/33 inch you can probably fit with pretty much no issues unless they are silly wide rims. Bigger then I'd say a lift kit could be good.

Now you have to ask yourself How are you lifting???

Longer springs but what Lbs per inch?
Std height but stiffer springs?
Longer softer springs?
Blocks under old springs?

Depending on which kit depends on how the lift is achieved you need to pick the best one for your application.

Using Std shocks and +2 same duty springs theh you will raise your ride height approx ish 2 inches. Bare in mind that your propshafts are now running at a higher angle of dangle and that more strain is put on them. also your shocks are now working at a higher position than previous. Std Shocks will bottom out and limit your articulation the same as standard however as you are running bigger tyres the tyres will foul the bodywork which means you need extended bumpstops to stop the tyres rubbing. This will limit your upward travel by the ammount of extra bump stop you put on. Thus limiting your articulation to less that of a std motor. Doing this (I have gone this route on my 90) will stop you destroying propshaft UJ's but still makes them work at a higher angle when in normal use. but waving a wheel in the air you can be confident that the propshaft should not fail or "bind" as the shock is limiting its downward travel this also means you can run std brakelines.

If you fit extended shocks you should replace your props because std ones will bind and fail when waving wheels in the air. Also Brake lines should be extended. Its quite well known that I'm not a massive admirer or silly articulation I believe its quite over rated and raved about when a diff locker would have done the job 10 times better.


By fitting taller same rate springs you are just moving the ride height and not achieving much else.

Be careful many "lift Kits" are crap and have HD or far stronger rate springs which be like driving a track car and not the best offroad.

Soooooo many options Personally Red/White RR HD Rears all round 175Lbs and +3 inches approx Far softer than front Std Defender springs. Like andrew Softer and Longer.
 
If you don;t know what rate you have on your Lift Kit then how can you decide if its a viable or suitable option for yourself. Many people just fit a "Lift kit" and believe the vehicle is better Most are worse than Std!
 
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