Freelander 1 Speedo cluster replacement?

I'm writing to inform any who may be interested in the following.
I have just completed replacing my KPH speedo (European Model) with a cluster from the UK. The new (second-hand) dial indicates MPH & KMP, so my trips to the UK - especially to the Isle of Skye on an annual basis, can be used with the appropriate indications.
In other words, the clusters can be replaced without any problems. They work. The mileage memory is held within the cluster and not anywhere else. I have proved it!
And my thanks go to to all who gave me good info that related to the job-in-hand. I am indebted to them. They know who they are.

For those who write what they think without real substantial knowledge, please don't.
This is something I have come across time-and-again. There are some who write what they think is right without any real background knowledge or experience. And it can be quite misleading, as well as confusing - not to mention... expensive.

And then, there are those who do know. The trouble is knowing what to believe and who/what to trust.
Also, when a question is asked about any particular item or subject, any answer concerning a different model/make is superfluous and totally unhelpful. Please learn all you helpful chaps, just answer what is asked and add nothing else. If someone needs to learn about a FL1, don't go off at a tangent with info concerning a Saturn 5 rocket. Because that's what it seems like, sometimes.


Read the presented question and answer appropriately. Just like any exam paper.
Anything else is a failure! 0/10 See me later. lol

Do you purposefully set out to annoy people?

No, I do not - unless those who would try to dismiss a good idea, that actually works, as a flimsy idea, instead.
As an example, I installed a headlight-washing system using the FL1's standard system to do so.
It worked perfectly. And I expected other FL1 enthuiasts to be as complimentary. I was mistaken!
What I received was the following, as cut&pasted.
If you might care to read what other Freelander so-called specialists have quoted, you might begin to understand where my argument begins.
I must add, I have learned an enormous amount of USEFUL information, while learning there is also a greater amount of rubbish written too!
And, my thanks go to several LandyZoners, especially to TD4van. His information helped me to understand the Speedo Cluster, where those who tried to persuade me they knew what was what - failed!

If you know for certain - tell all. Information can save lots of man-hours as well as expense.

If you think you know - say so. Then the reader can evaluate what has been presented - determining what might be useful.

If you think you know but only work on theory - don't say or write a single word! That incorrect information could, and probably would, cost someone dearly.

That goes thus...
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Headlight washers mod. Tis easy & cheap. Any car!

Discussion in 'Land Rover Freelander' started by PopRivet, Nov 12, 2018.

Today, I did a job/modification I had been intending to do for a while. Headlight Washers, on my FL1.
My original plan was to have a separate pump and operating switch, but recently watched a Range Rover operate his windscreen washers while the headlights got a wash too. That’s when I recalled a Toyota Celica I once owned – and loved. It too had headlight washers that operated alongside the windscreen washers.
So why complicate matters when a job can be done simply?
I bought two washer-jets, two plastic hose tee-pieces and black plastic tubing.
See the attached pictures and accompanying details...
2Pcs Universal Windscreen Washer Jet Water Spray Nozzle Fit Vehicle Most Cars.
T JOINER Piece 3 WAY PLASTIC BARBED CONNECTOR PIPE HOSE Reducer Air Fuel Water I use 5mm pieces.
1M Polyurethane Tube PU Air Pneumatic Plastic Pipe Hose 6mm (OD) x 4mm (ID)
The jets needed a 9.5mm hole each (other types may need a different size) and the tubing threaded through the bodywork to be joined onto the car’s existing washer piping.
The job took only 50 minutes to do, and it all works extremely well.
Cheap-as-chips too.
Oh yeah, all the bits were bought on Ebay.uk


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Is it actually worth having without wipers?
I'm curious about that myself. Water only headlight washers run at about 100 Psi through special nozzles, so I can't see normal screen washer working without wipers.
Happy with my Freelander SE Auto
If you want to know how to change the KV6 belts. This link will show you how.
http://forums.xpowerforums.com/showthread.php?t=60892

Nodge68, Nov 13, 2018Report

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Other minor issue is that as the level runs low, the proper system switches off the headlamp wash to preserve remaining available water for the screen.... where it is needed most?
But it's a nice practical and cheap attempt.


"Lemon" MY 2000 Range Rover 4.6 Vogue Bought 2017 with 13k on the clock
"Old Faithful" MY 1999 Range Rover 4.6 HSE Bought 2005 with 56K on the clock, Sold 2017 with 120K.

DanClarke, Nov 13, 2018Report
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Only the FL2 with Xenon headlights have headlight washers, which are mandated by legislation.
However the nozzles are specifically designed to spray a fan of high pressure water across the lenses. This high pressure water being supplied by a separate high pressure (circa 100 PSI) pump. These washers only function when the windscreen washer is activated, while the headlights are on and the screen wash tank is over 1/4 full.
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Happy with my Freelander SE Auto
If you want to know how to change the KV6 belts. This link will show you how.
http://forums.xpowerforums.com/showthread.php?t=60892

Nodge68, Nov 14, 2018Report

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The FL2 alternates the headlight jets anorl. One light, then the other, then repeat again.


This post should not be considered a definitive answer. It could be a load of crap.
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I added, I had tested the system and it worked pefectly. Period!!
But, as always, there are those who just want to be negative and questionable.

What does one need to do to persaude others that a treid & tested system is not only functionable but also to an individuals benefit?

I do like to use landyZone. there is an enormous amount of useful information that helps others.
I ask, please do not include theory that is unproven, as well as one's ideas of questionable practice.

Help each other, as I have tried to do. Encourage others with what you know for certain as opposed to what you might think!

GrumpyGel said:

Do you purposefully set out to annoy people?

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Why would he set out to annoy peeps?? , besides which , he also writes very intersting book you know,

Cheers

I reiterate my thoughts. Please, include only advice that works - not a theory that is questionable and possibly wrong.
My car (a 2006 HSE FL1) is about to receive a pair of brand-new front brake calipers & hoses. These units will be the last items needed to ensure my car lasts for longer as it has been constructed, and hopefully for even longer.
My hobby is my FL1. It's worth it. it's a machine worth bleeding for - which I have done for, on many occasions.
My thanks go to all who have supported me in my quest to ensure my car is safe and sound.

From your first post...

For those who write what they think without real substantial knowledge, please don't. This is something I have come across time-and-again. There are some who write what they think is right without any real background knowledge or experience. And it can be quite misleading, as well as confusing - not to mention... expensive.

From your post above...

I reiterate my thoughts. Please, include only advice that works - not a theory that is questionable and possibly wrong.

How about writing up stuff that's not safe? How about writing up stuff that's not legal?

Refer to your DRL thread. You promoted your bodge DRL system created from your "real substantial knowledge". You conveniently ignored that what you were telling people to do was not safe and not legal.

Refer to your car cleaning thread. You disregard people with real and substantial knowledge that what you were saying was likely to damage paintwork.

You appear to be a serial perpetrator of the bad advice you wish to eradicate from the forum.

Have a look on the profile post, he's looking to jump ship.

Perhaps @PopRivet if you just wrote about your mods and work, but didn't make your condescending comments within the posts you'd come across as a decent contributor to the forum. I like what you do but sometimes the way you say things sounds really ****ty.

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if you just wrote about your mods and work, but didn't make your condescending comments within the posts you'd come across as a decent contributor to the forum.

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I think some of it was aimed at me.

I did suggest that his screen washer based headlight washer system wasn't going to be be as good as the factory fitted washers, fitted to HID equipped cars. These OE washer use high pressure pumps and special nozzles to blast the headlights clean.

Mind you, if he can't take a bit of constructive criticism, then he's in the wrong place.