Somethings Not Right!?

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Anguslives! said:
Mad Hat.

This is getting nowhere fast. Your so right your wrong! Please use this as your next attachment. You are the man!!

I understand the practice is called "Revue technique" in simple terms measure before and measure again, no difference = no problem. boling water poured into bottom end to see if it would run into sump = nothing.


Basically your credentials are what??
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My credentials are irrelevant. I have posted them on here before, but I am not getting into a "My dick is bigger than yours!" scenario here.

Good luck with your rebuild. I hope it goes well, but I wont hold my breath.
 
Mad Hat

"Replacing pistons when 17 does not mean you know what you are talking about or that you have an understanding of the mechanical complexities and poor design of the K series"

Your right it doesn't make me fully understand the mechanical complexities of the K but does your comments make you a guru?! People who look on here come looking for help and support on matters, just like me and just like you did once upon a time. The power of the internet is great but also a curse as mentioned time and time again everyone on here knows best, no doubt over the years you've been able to point a number of people in the right direction but since you actually dont have any actual experiance with these engines I guess that puts me above you doesn't it....

Try doing it my friend instead of reading about it on the internet then perhaps we can agree on something.
 
Weather is good today so once I've finished work I'm going to get the head back on injector/exhaust manifolds etc.

For those who have a Freelander 1.8 K series once this is all done I will add a link to a new thread detailing what went wrong/right, parts used, handy information etc. This will be my own experience perhaps not everyones is the same, look about and make your own minds up, you dont have to agree with mine.

But for a engine that's got such low respect I still cant find a late Freelander 1 with a HGF!!!
 
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You had a KV6 and you talk about mine! Shame on you!!

Even less respect for you now....... I'm only joking, I don't have any respect for you hahaha again that was a joke.

So several years ago you had your KV6 in bits, good for you, since then you've done what? We've already talked about you not having any hands on with the K1.8 = 0 hrs life experience...... Humm makes me worry about all them people you've helped before pointing them in the wrong direction and all that haha?!

Have you tried to google "Revue Tech" then? It's real I haven't made it up, thought you would have knew all about it since your the Lady Zone Official Intenet Warrior.
 
Some more information for the K-series owners like myself, I've talked about this before but here is a quote from a design team.

Far more significant was the introduction of the revised oil rail and now available through Landrover as a retrofit.

This new casting is a stiffer design made in ANSI357 alloy - the same metal as F1 blocks and is as stiff a cast alloy as you can currently make. The purpose is to resist the bending forces the engine is subjected to in those warm up/down cycles. During all the elaborate stress analysis done on the engine in the last 5 years the original oil rail was found to collapse at the towers that hold the bolts and allow the coolant leakage that will eventually destroy the head. Consequently fitting the new rail is almost as important as fitting PRT.

However it is ESSENTIAL to fit it, if a MLS gasket is being used, because the new MLS gaskets achieve only 75% of the clamping of the old elastomer gaskets [the elastomer compresses more than the 5 steel core plates of the MLS] and consequently the MLS is much more prone to leak than the elastomer gasket without the new oil rail, particularly without a PRT fitted.

This backs up my understanding, and anyone who said you don't need it clearly talking crap.

And again no head should be re-fitted without a hardness test first!
 
Wondered when you'd pop up again, and how do you know this to be correct? Please enlighten us all with your wonder!!

If engineers came up that improving the rail will create better stiffness to counter the extra flex made by the new MLS gasket which should only be used if the head has been skimmed and pressure tested and taken into account of the cooling and the heating up of the upgraded head bolts then clearly you know far more than them............. Errr not.

Using all the upgraded parts will make a difference, doing half the job with half the parts or using cheap EBAY parts wont.

Even Land Rover admitted about the rail mod in a bulletin!

But as ever it's always nice to hear from you........
 
Anguslives! said:
Wondered when you'd pop up again, and how do you know this to be correct? Please enlighten us all with your wonder!!

If engineers came up that improving the rail will create better stiffness to counter the extra flex made by the new MLS gasket which should only be used if the head has been skimmed and pressure tested and taken into account of the cooling and the heating up of the upgraded head bolts then clearly you know far more than them............. Errr not.

Using all the upgraded parts will make a difference, doing half the job with half the parts or using cheap EBAY parts wont.

Even Land Rover admitted about the rail mod in a bulletin!

But as ever it's always nice to hear from you........
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Experience and experience of two machine shops, the underlying issue is thermal cycles and rigidity of block, fact of the matter is 1.8 suffer more as block sacrificed strength with increased capacity.

Say what you will the 1.8 k series suffer's latent defects in design and cooling system exacerbates it
 
Anguslives! said:
Nobody is saying it doesn't the point is the mods help reduce future HGF issues!!
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With the greatest respect-your talking **** and it was only redesigned as reliability needed to be seen to be improved.
From experience it won't make a bean of difference, but your on a lonely path of talking yourself into it-so why let me stop you.
 
The intent of threads is to learn, and with respect this isn't my first K-series engine, you aren't a fan of it and that's fine that your opinion, many people don't have issue and when something needs addressing they address it, I'm sure your current motor has/had/will have issues at some point in time and you like me will make a choice either to address it as I have or to replace/get rid.

We've already gone over the fact I'm not getting rid of the car, you don't like them so let's move on, anyhow I'll inform you first the head's now back on but stopped as it's raining silly.
 
Anguslives! said:
The intent of threads is to learn, and with respect this isn't my first K-series engine, you aren't a fan of it and that's fine that your opinion, many people don't have issue and when something needs addressing they address it, I'm sure your current motor has/had/will have issues at some point in time and you like me will make a choice either to address it as I have or to replace/get rid.

We've already gone over the fact I'm not getting rid of the car, you don't like them so let's move on, anyhow I'll inform you first the head's now back on but stopped as it's raining silly.
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You better believe it bitch!!

Did somebody order a life over here!? Nope.

For the record I've read that thread you attached and others to support that it does make a difference to fit the ladder.... So what have we learnt here today children well the internet and forums alike provide many different answers all claiming to be correct.

The only thing to prove this correct is time........
 
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I have to agree with Angus on this one, Fanny.:eek:

Well - sort of.....
Although the Rail is not critical in most K series engines, and which many treat as optional on Rover cars, it becomes much more important on the Freelander application. This is because the Freelander has a bigger problem with block stiffness due to the way the 4WD transmission is mounted on it. It is a must if you want to ward off a repeat failure.... even with the MLS gasket.

That does not negate the **** poor design and the likelyhood of cavitation and sequential HGF, but every bit helps :D
 
God sake don't you'll make me cry! Support from you what the hell's the world coming to!!

The K has issues, it always will, but you can go along way in reducing them, nothing isn't prone to failure, nothing!!
 
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