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Freelander 2 (LR2) Some advice needed

Discussion in 'Land Rover Freelander' started by DanK90, Apr 8, 2021.

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  1. DanK90

    DanK90 New Member

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    Sorry for the long post but here goes, was initially in the welcome section but hopefully gets a bit more notice in here.

    I've had an 07 Freelander 2 for a few years now but unfortunately while driving home it went into a weird limp mode.I
    I managed to get it home and called the AA just so they would come out and scan the ECU and they found 4 errors.
    Patrol found the following fault code/s:System : Engine control - 57Y / Diesel EDC 16CP39 Status :

    P0489 - Exhaust gas recirculation control. Error Message : Malfunction. Error static. Status

    P042E - Exhaust gas recirculation control. Error Message : Malfunction. Fault pending. Status

    P0380 - Glow plug/heater circuit (A). Error Message : Malfunction. Error static. Status

    P1298 - Internal control module Fuel injection. Error Message : Malfunction. Error static.
    Advise to take to garage asap
    Engine Oil Level Ok. Coolant Level Ok.
    Local garage have quoted £700ish for new EGR valve supplied and fitted with a chance of the new EGR clearing the other error codes.

    So what do I do now, could someone kindly point out where the EGR valve is ? If it's accessible I may fancy getting the spanners out, sorry for the long 1st post.
     
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    static error messages are just that - there to stay
    Pending means its not so serious and the ecu is waiting for 3 to occur in 3 consecutive trips before flagging a fault

    The glow plug one would not be a concern unless it is hard to start on a cold day
    EGR is a concern but
    The show stopper for me is P1298 i would start there

    http://enginetroublecode.com/

    to suggest an EGR swap is barking at codes in my opinion

    also i assume it is a TD4?
     
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    Correct it is a TD4,
     
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    just had a quick look there

    Main reason For P1298 Code
    The reason of P1298 OBD-II Engine Trouble Code is Manifold Absolute Pressure/Barometric Pressure Circuit High Input.


    could be down to the EGR then but rather than £700 i would be trying mr muscle or a carbon clean maybe?
    I would suggest a blank mod but that is now an MOT fail if detected.
     
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    I'm happy to get the spanners out if the EGR is accessible
     
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    I agree with SWalker above.
    The EGR stuff is likely a red herring, but they are known to go wrong, but cost nothing like £700 to replace. The EGR valve assembly is under £100 and takes about an hour or so to install. You can also fit an EGR blanking plate, to prevent a stuck EGR valve from passing exhaust gasses continuously.

    P1298 is more interesting, and not so easy to sort. The injector driver is part of the ECM, which if faulty, would need replacing and configuring to the vehicle.

    I did this very thing to my FL2, but for a different reason. I used a Mongoose lead from China, and a copy (probably cloned) of JLR SDD, which allowed me to replace and configure a second hand ECM in about 30 minutes.

    Definitely more investigation is needed, than simply paying over the odds to replace something unnecessary.

    If you look at the bottom my posts, you'll see a link to the full list of LR codes. ;)
     
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    That's interesting. Where did you find that?

    That means it could well be a sticking EGR valve, causing higher manifold pressure than anticipated.

    I'd be fitting an EGR blanking plate, as they're almost undetectable at MOT time.
     
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    came from the website i posted, pretty sure i got that from someone on here - it breaks down each number and what it means.
    If you are anything like me i dont take it as fact until i have seen it myself or read about it in several independent places.
    bloody internet used to be 70% naughty pictures must be 80% lies at this stage lol
     
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    I tend to use the LR codes as a guide, but am also aware that sometimes TCs lead you up the wrong path, especially as manufacturers don't always seem to know what can cause all codes.:confused:
     
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    Sorry for bumping
    These have barometric sensor in ecu? like my old s-type Jaguar and when it gets shot, new ecu?
     
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    I'm not sure but wasn't the Landrover assembled from Volvo, Ford and Jaguar so I wouldn't be surprised if parts are interchangeable
     
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    They use indeed Peugeot engines in that era. Ford rebrands them somehow but in reality these are PSA.
     
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    Yep, time to start clearing out 17 years of sticky oily carbon deposits probably, specs of which you will not notice on your cloths and shoes, but you will when they fall on your carpet.

    However, are some of these codes historic? Having cleared the codes, did the engine then run properly and were the codes then read again to see what are current codes?
     
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    I'm not sure if the codes are new or not, it's the first time it's gone into limp mode but turning the engine off and waiting 5 minutes seemed to get me going enough to get home.

    I'm waiting for a scanner to turn up, so I will clear the codes and see if there's any improvement, on a side note it's never really been that efficient only ever averaged around 25mpg and a max of 40mpg on a decent motorway run.

    After I've cleared the codes I'm planning a run up the motorway to see if I can clear any deposits out. Under heavy acceleration in 2nd I do see a plume of black smoke but it disappears, it will rev virtually all the way 6000rpm so it's not holding back but just doesn't seem right.
     
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    Yes, there's a barometric sensor in the ECM.
     
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