Rust and tears...

twinter82 · Feb 10, 2012

Hi all, I decided to brave the cold and fit my newly aquired bull bar today and opened a can of worms in the process.

To start with, I removed the apron and end caps from the bumper, to allow me to mount the bar. This is what I found under the plastics...

Obviously some panels are going to have to be replaced, but is rust in these areas an MOT fail? Bearing in mind the inner wing has gone completely at the front...

jamesmartin · Feb 10, 2012

yes there is front mounts body-chassis

mark1765 · Feb 10, 2012

Sell it on ebay as the latest lightweight model

Easy repair when the weather gets better,check out the boot floor and sills,make a list then cancel this years holidays,learn to weld.:lol:

twinter82 · Feb 10, 2012

jamesmartin said:
yes there is front mounts body-chassis

Thanks, so this is where the tears start! Obviously looking at new inner wing panel, headlight unit and battery tray. Does the YRM metal headlight unit include the mounting point? The angle is wrong in the pic and you can probably tell i haven't much experience in this area..

Off to get some welding quotes, how many hours work would you expect it to be to replace these panels?

twinter82 · Feb 10, 2012

mark1765 said:
Sell it on ebay as the latest lightweight model
Easy repair when the weather gets better,check out the boot floor and sills,make a list then cancel this years holidays,learn to weld.:lol:

I hear what you're saying, trouble is MOT is due in 4 weeks and I've never tried welding

mark1765 · Feb 10, 2012

check the rest out before you decide what you are going to do,may be time to buy a little runaround.

lazydog · Feb 10, 2012

If you decide to have a go search on the forum and you will find loads of threads,then have a look here ref. mig welding.
MIG Welding - The DIY Guide

twinter82 · Feb 10, 2012

Thanks for the link, i'll see what quotes i get for the urgent MOT related work, then look into doing the rest myself. The Green Hornet/Mr Noisey thread has inspired me to do a full restoration job when time and finances allow!

Does anyone know if the YRM metal complete headlight unit includes the chassis mounting point or if this is a seperate piece?

lazydog · Feb 10, 2012

081C Discovery 1 headlight to chassis mount nearside

twinter82 · Feb 10, 2012

Thanks Lazydog!

As i mentioned at the start of the thread, i started out with the intention of fitting my new bull bar - however the mounts seem completely wrong.

Am i missing a bracket to attach the bottom of the bars to the bumper mounts, or is this bull bar for a completely different model?!

lazydog · Feb 10, 2012

landrover Discovery 1 bullbar | eBay

lazydog · Feb 10, 2012

a disco 1 brackets look like this but when you learn to weld that one will fit!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/landrover...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4ab3b057b9

nick2303 · Feb 10, 2012

mine failed first mot after i bought it on rusty sills..

bought a mig, easy on repair panels had it back to garage 5 days later for a pass..

2nd year failed on boot floor, rear wheel arches, inner and outer, 3 body mounts on inner sills..

bought some tin, made the panels, 30 hours welding and fabricating, had it back for the pass 6 days after it failed..

i work tue to friday on day job, dj fri and sat nights and 4 til 9 sundays.. mondays r my only full day off.. i have no garage,

anythin is possible, they are so easy to fix...

Pikey · Feb 10, 2012

it should curve upwards in order to fit onto the side of the chassis leg using the same bolts that are holding the bumper on. If it doesn't do that. It'd not the right one or some one had modified it to fit something else..

twinter82 · Feb 10, 2012

nick2303 said:
mine failed first mot after i bought it on rusty sills..

bought a mig, easy on repair panels had it back to garage 5 days later for a pass..

2nd year failed on boot floor, rear wheel arches, inner and outer, 3 body mounts on inner sills..

bought some tin, made the panels, 30 hours welding and fabricating, had it back for the pass 6 days after it failed..

i work tue to friday on day job, dj fri and sat nights and 4 til 9 sundays.. mondays r my only full day off.. i have no garage,

anythin is possible, they are so easy to fix...

I'm impressed! I'm out for work from 7am till 7pm and don't have a garage or even a drive so i'm not far off you

Looks like it's time to learn to weld!

Bump · Feb 10, 2012

twinter82 said:
I'm impressed! I'm out for work from 7am till 7pm and don't have a garage or even a drive so i'm not far off you

Looks like it's time to learn to weld!

PM'd you... sorry if I sold you something which wasn't what I thought it was... happy to collect it back and refund you!

Mr Noisy · Feb 10, 2012

Bump said:
PM'd you... sorry if I sold you something which wasn't what I thought it was... happy to collect it back and refund you!

Commendable!

twinter82 · Feb 10, 2012

Mr Noisy said:
Commendable!

He seemed like a nice guy when I met him, now I know he is!

twinter82 · Feb 12, 2012

ok, I have tried the search function and the tyre fitting guide so please don't throw things at me...

Whilst working out what to do with the rust, my new (well, 2nd hand) wheels and tyres arrived. 235/85/16 insa turbos on steel wheels. I'm ready to do the camel cut etc etc, but someone asked me if they were the right offest, which had me stumped.

Theres nothing stamped on the metal, and they came off a defender 90. Should they be the same offset?

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