Remap 2.7

Nightsman32 · Feb 2, 2020

Evening guys.

Thinking of having a remap on my 2.7hse 2008 RRS
Spoke to the remap guy he says he can remap the egr valve out without removing it.
Does this sound like a good idea and has anyone done this as i spoke to.few owners and they say the egr are prone to problems.
Thanks guys

gold rover · Feb 2, 2020

Yeah guys, what do you think.

biketeacherdave · Feb 2, 2020

If you blank it on that engine you need it mapped to remove the engine warning light any ways pretty standard stuff to be honest

Nightsman32 · Feb 2, 2020

Is there much benefit to remapping it out. Thanks

Henry_b · Feb 2, 2020

More power.
In Jag circles a good map should yield 245hp and alot more torque.

However a Jag can use the power, a 2ton bus cannot.

myfirstl322 · Feb 3, 2020

Henry_b said:
a Jag can use the power, a 2ton bus cannot.

What bollocks you spout sometimes.

Mark Piercy · Feb 3, 2020

Nightsman32 said:
Is there much benefit to remapping it out. Thanks

If they program it out then the already feable egr unit won't move and won't fail. This has been done on my Volvo 2.0 and I have to leave the egr unplugged as it flashes a code. But... Along with the Reprog it goes like an idiot.
Don't have it programed with too much power as it will start to wear out faster In all the expensive areas. Get a guaranteed remap and ask if they keep the original or stock map if you choose not to keep it tuned. They should allow you test it and agree to the work carried out

gstuart · Feb 3, 2020

Must admit I’ve just blanked the egrs and for something that weighs nearly 3 ton if u plant ur foot it certainally doesn’t hang about

Personally wouldn't remap mine as I feel it has more than enough power already , also the MPG will suffer with a remap

plus with the fragile situation regarding the crankshaft issue I wouldn’t wish to put the engine under any more stress by adding a remap

but of course at the end of the day that’s my own personal choice

as a side note it’s 2007 onwards that req the patch, leave pipes in situ , fit blanks and remove butterfly valve, remembering to reinstall the butterfly pin back in , clean MAP

Nightsman32 · Feb 3, 2020

gstuart said:
Must admit I’ve just blanked the egrs and for something that weighs nearly 3 ton if u plant ur foot it certainally doesn’t hang about

Personally wouldn't remap mine as I feel it has more than enough power already , also the MPG will suffer with a remap

plus with the fragile situation regarding the crankshaft issue I wouldn’t wish to put the engine under any more stress by adding a remap

but of course at the end of the day that’s my own personal choice

as a side note it’s 2007 onwards that req the patch, leave pipes in situ , fit blanks and remove butterfly valve, remembering to reinstall the butterfly pin back in , clean MAP

The remap specialist i spoke to said the egr valve stays in when he remaps it they just tell the egr valve via remap to close and never to open again does this sound right.

Datatek · Feb 3, 2020

Nightsman32 said:
The remap specialist i spoke to said the egr valve stays in when he remaps it they just tell the egr valve via remap to close and never to open again does this sound right.

That is certainly what happens with remaps as on some vehicles because physically removing the EGR is illegal.

gstuart · Feb 3, 2020

Nightsman32 said:
The remap specialist i spoke to said the egr valve stays in when he remaps it they just tell the egr valve via remap to close and never to open again does this sound right.

hiya

indeed , egrs stay in place , but are blanked and butterfly valve removed so u can’t tell they’ve been blanked when it goes for its MOT

After 2007 it reqs that software patch , as it puts an error light on the instrument panel , u can just have the patch without a remap

Alas seen many companies charging around £400 for the above

Nightsman32 · Feb 3, 2020

gstuart said:
hiya

indeed , egrs stay in place , but are blanked and butterfly valve removed so u can’t tell they’ve been blanked when it goes for its MOT

After 2007 it reqs that software patch , as it puts an error light on the instrument panel , u can just have the patch without a remap

Alas seen many companies charging around £400 for the above

Been priced at £270 no mention of removing or blanking egr valve all he said was the remap will shut off the ecu and make sure it dont open again

Henry_b · Feb 3, 2020

myfirstl322 said:
What bollocks you spout sometimes.

No real use for much more than the power the 2.7 delivers for a particle sense
Also considering it puts all the aged components under unnecessary stress.

Also ironic considering some of your posts are a load of shít..

gstuart · Feb 3, 2020

Nightsman32 said:
Been priced at £270 no mention of removing or blanking egr valve all he said was the remap will shut off the ecu and make sure it dont open again

hiya

Must admit I haven’t heard that before , think u need to speak to him again, is it a company or individual plse

have a chat with Pete bell , extremely knowledgeable

https://bellautoservices.co.uk/

Nightsman32 · Feb 3, 2020

gstuart said:
hiya

Must admit I haven’t heard that before , think u need to speak to him again, is it a company or individual plse

have a chat with Pete bell , extremely knowledgeable

https://bellautoservices.co.uk/

This was his exact reply when i asked was the egr removed or blanked off

No you leave them there all cars from 2003 are ecu controlled so we tell them to close never open again

gstuart · Feb 3, 2020

Nightsman32 said:
This was his exact reply when i asked was the egr removed or blanked off

No you leave them there all cars from 2003 are ecu controlled so we tell them to close never open again

thks,

as I haven’t heard that before I don’t want to give u the wrong information , plse put a post here

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/

as they will 100% know if the egrs need to be blanked inc the butterfly valve removed and not just a software patch ??

hope that at least helps

Datatek · Feb 3, 2020

gstuart said:
thks,

as I haven’t heard that before I don’t want to give u the wrong information , plse put a post here

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/

as they will 100% know if the egrs need to be blanked inc the butterfly valve removed and not just a software patch ??

hope that at least helps

I do not know about the butterfly valve, but if the EGR si programmed out so it cannot open, then no blanking is necessary.

gstuart · Feb 3, 2020

Datatek said:
I do not know about the butterfly valve, but if the EGR si programmed out so it cannot open, then no blanking is necessary.

Thks and to be honest hands up I wasn’t sure about the butterfly valve inside the throttle body if it needed removing with just the patch installed

Indeed know ur very knowledgeable , but I’ve only just heard about the blanks installed and never just the patch

Datatek · Feb 3, 2020

gstuart said:
Thks and to be honest hands up I wasn’t sure about the butterfly valve inside the throttle body if it needed removing with just the patch installed

Indeed know ur very knowledgeable , but I’ve only just heard about the blanks installed and never just the patch

The blanks are probably a con just as they are on the much simpler P38. If the EGR valve cannot open because the command to open has been removed, it is the same as blanking the valve. Having said that, some remaps are better than others and while the fault code may be blocked, control of the valve may not be fully disabled and thus blanking would be needed.
As i said, I have no idea about the butterfly valve in the manifold.

gstuart · Feb 3, 2020

Datatek said:
The blanks are probably a con just as they are on the much simpler P38. If the EGR valve cannot open because the command to open has been removed, it is the same as blanking the valve. Having said that, some remaps are better than others and while the fault code may be blocked, control of the valve may not be fully disabled and thus blanking would be needed.
As i said, I have no idea about the butterfly valve in the manifold.

Many thks for the explanation , alas will be interesting to see what the op gets back ref to the butterfly valve

I’ll of course update the thread if I see anything

indeed ref the remapping , heard of some horror stories

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