Re: bl**dy ebay......

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Mr.Nice. wrote:
> I've been on ebay after an injector pump, there were 2, one ended
> yesterday, one ended today.
> the one ending yesterday sold for £52 so I was fairly happy with my
> max bid on one today at £92.
> then in the last 2 minutes some bugger outbid me.
>
> I hope it falls apart yabugger.

I was on eBay looking for a GS Mk6 kevlar helmet to replace the one I
have - which is too small, so I'm selling it - and I had the high bid.
Towards the end of the auction I started refreshing to make sure I
wasn't outbid.

Eight seconds remaining; I decided to up my bid. So I did, but just
missed it... and literally within the last second some bastard -
presumably with one of those auto-bid bots - outbid me. AAAAARRGHH!

Good helmet, too. My size, with covers, and only £18...

 
Torak wrote:
> Mr.Nice. wrote:
>
>> I've been on ebay after an injector pump, there were 2, one ended
>> yesterday, one ended today.
>> the one ending yesterday sold for £52 so I was fairly happy with my
>> max bid on one today at £92.
>> then in the last 2 minutes some bugger outbid me.
>>
>> I hope it falls apart yabugger.
>
>
> I was on eBay looking for a GS Mk6 kevlar helmet to replace the one I
> have - which is too small, so I'm selling it - and I had the high bid.
> Towards the end of the auction I started refreshing to make sure I
> wasn't outbid.
>
> Eight seconds remaining; I decided to up my bid. So I did, but just
> missed it... and literally within the last second some bastard -
> presumably with one of those auto-bid bots - outbid me. AAAAARRGHH!
>
> Good helmet, too. My size, with covers, and only £18...
>

That's because you were sniped. With the best will in the world, you
are here and the Ebay servers are in the states, so you can't really
bid fast enough, taking into account the lag between here and there.
I use Esnipe.com which is in the US and places bids within 6 seconds
of the auction end. Always bid a maximum ending in an odd amount, ie:
61.47, and be aware that you will still lose if there's a higher bid,
although the pence can often win a bid, using Ebays' high bidding
procedure.

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Danny

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On or around Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:15:33 +0000, danny
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Always bid a maximum ending in an odd amount, ie:
>61.47, and be aware that you will still lose if there's a higher bid,
>although the pence can often win a bid, using Ebays' high bidding
>procedure.

I tend to bid nn.52 - I've observed quite a lot of things ending on nn.50
and nn.51

 
danny wrote:
> Torak wrote:
>
>> I was on eBay looking for a GS Mk6 kevlar helmet to replace the one I
>> have - which is too small, so I'm selling it - and I had the high bid.
>> Towards the end of the auction I started refreshing to make sure I
>> wasn't outbid.
>>
>> Eight seconds remaining; I decided to up my bid. So I did, but just
>> missed it... and literally within the last second some bastard -
>> presumably with one of those auto-bid bots - outbid me. AAAAARRGHH!
>>
>> Good helmet, too. My size, with covers, and only £18...
>
> That's because you were sniped. With the best will in the world, you

Yeah.

> are here and the Ebay servers are in the states, so you can't really bid

Are they? Even the eBay UK servers?

> fast enough, taking into account the lag between here and there. I use
> Esnipe.com which is in the US and places bids within 6 seconds of the
> auction end. Always bid a maximum ending in an odd amount, ie: 61.47,
> and be aware that you will still lose if there's a higher bid, although
> the pence can often win a bid, using Ebays' high bidding procedure.

How very annoying.

 
Torak wrote:
> danny wrote:
>
>> Torak wrote:
>>
>>> I was on eBay looking for a GS Mk6 kevlar helmet to replace the one I
>>> have - which is too small, so I'm selling it - and I had the high
>>> bid. Towards the end of the auction I started refreshing to make sure
>>> I wasn't outbid.
>>>
>>> Eight seconds remaining; I decided to up my bid. So I did, but just
>>> missed it... and literally within the last second some bastard -
>>> presumably with one of those auto-bid bots - outbid me. AAAAARRGHH!
>>>
>>> Good helmet, too. My size, with covers, and only £18...
>>
>>
>> That's because you were sniped. With the best will in the world, you
>
>
> Yeah.
>
>> are here and the Ebay servers are in the states, so you can't really bid
>
>
> Are they? Even the eBay UK servers?
>
>> fast enough, taking into account the lag between here and there. I use
>> Esnipe.com which is in the US and places bids within 6 seconds of the
>> auction end. Always bid a maximum ending in an odd amount, ie: 61.47,
>> and be aware that you will still lose if there's a higher bid,
>> although the pence can often win a bid, using Ebays' high bidding
>> procedure.
>
>
> How very annoying.
>

Provided I bid the absolute maximum I wanted something for, I've
nearly always one with a snipe, and usually for less than my maximum
bid would have been, without showing my hand to others.

--
Regards,
Danny

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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 20:23:44 +0000, Tim Hobbs wrote:

>> Are they? Even the eBay UK servers?
>
> ping www.ebay.co.uk and then ping www.ebay.com and draw your own
> conclusions....

traceroute would be better but both traces give up after:

16 194.117.136.138 (194.117.136.138) 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms
17 62.159.199.41 (62.159.199.41) 31 ms 39 ms 39 ms
18 paix-gw12.SFO.US.net.DTAG.DE (62.154.5.245) 180 ms 187 ms 180 ms
19 * * *
etc

But as can be seen the route has entered Germany and appears to be one
end of a link to the US...

--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:31:43 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 20:23:44 +0000, Tim Hobbs wrote:
>
>>> Are they? Even the eBay UK servers?
>>
>> ping www.ebay.co.uk and then ping www.ebay.com and draw your own
>> conclusions....
>
>traceroute would be better but both traces give up after:
>
>16 194.117.136.138 (194.117.136.138) 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms
>17 62.159.199.41 (62.159.199.41) 31 ms 39 ms 39 ms
>18 paix-gw12.SFO.US.net.DTAG.DE (62.154.5.245) 180 ms 187 ms 180 ms
>19 * * *
>etc
>
>But as can be seen the route has entered Germany and appears to be one
>end of a link to the US...

Yes, that's where my tracert ended too. But there is no doubt they
are in the same place, and I'd bet on the US.
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In article <[email protected]>, tim@
101ambulance-urine.net says...
> Yes, that's where my tracert ended too. But there is no doubt they
> are in the same place, and I'd bet on the US.

Sorry, but that's wrong. I can have two machines (and actually did) with
adjacent IPs, identical traceroutes, each on either side of the atlantic
and you wouldn't notice the difference (except perhaps if you noticed
the RTT difference).

Neither IP, traceroute, nor neighbours is any indication of the actual
physical location.

You can tell from their AS[1] that they peer with 5 providers. I would
say it's a reasonably safe assumption that they're in the same place,
but that's far from having no doubt.

The internet is usually far more complicated than people give it credit.
:)

Ta,
Aled.


[1] http://bgp.potaroo.net/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS11643&view=4637
 
On or around Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:07:08 -0000, Aled <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>In article <[email protected]>, tim@
>101ambulance-urine.net says...
>> Yes, that's where my tracert ended too. But there is no doubt they
>> are in the same place, and I'd bet on the US.
>
>Sorry, but that's wrong. I can have two machines (and actually did) with
>adjacent IPs, identical traceroutes, each on either side of the atlantic
>and you wouldn't notice the difference (except perhaps if you noticed
>the RTT difference).

even if it's got a name to look up? I rather thought that .de domains had
to be in .de ... granted that a numeric address tells you bugger all, by
default - sometimes, you cna trace a block as belonging to a particular
company or provider, which gives an idea.

<thinks> hmmm. wonder if I, bearing in mind the froggyness of wannadon't, I
can get a .fr address :)

>Neither IP, traceroute, nor neighbours is any indication of the actual
>physical location.
>

 
Austin Shackles wrote:

> even if it's got a name to look up? I rather thought that .de domains had
> to be in .de ... granted that a numeric address tells you bugger all, by
> default - sometimes, you cna trace a block as belonging to a particular
> company or provider, which gives an idea.

Nope, any domain can be anywhere, it's just a case of registering the
name then setting up a DNS server to point it to whereever you want
(including that you can have multiple names pointing to the same site).
Incidentally shackles.de, .fr and .co.nz are all available should you
wish to mark your territory a bit.

--
EMB
 
In article <[email protected]>, austin@ddol-
las.fsnet.co.uk says...
> On or around Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:07:08 -0000, Aled <[email protected]>
> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, tim@
> >101ambulance-urine.net says...
> >> Yes, that's where my tracert ended too. But there is no doubt they
> >> are in the same place, and I'd bet on the US.
> >
> >Sorry, but that's wrong. I can have two machines (and actually did) with
> >adjacent IPs, identical traceroutes, each on either side of the atlantic
> >and you wouldn't notice the difference (except perhaps if you noticed
> >the RTT difference).
>
> even if it's got a name to look up? I rather thought that .de domains had
> to be in .de ... granted that a numeric address tells you bugger all, by
> default - sometimes, you cna trace a block as belonging to a particular
> company or provider, which gives an idea.

Each ccTLD has it's own rules regarding registration of domains. I don't
know Germany's of France's that well, however I do know that some
countries have very strange requirements. Having said that, assuming I
can register a .de domain, there's nothing stopping me from assigning a
DNS entry to an IP in America, or even an IP that's issed by ARIN, but
is actually located in the UK.

> <thinks> hmmm. wonder if I, bearing in mind the froggyness of wannadon't, I
> can get a .fr address :)

Check the French registry, they'll have their own rules.

Cheers,
Aled.
 
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