poor brakes

Hi
I have poor brakes on my 1995 Disco (manual). they feel a bit spongy, don't have much feel to them and I have to press hard to pull up sharply.

I have just fitted new disc's pads and calipers as the old one were knackered.

(Incidentaly I got the lot from Paddocks and the calipers have 3 bleed nipples (my old ones had one) and two entry points for the brake pipes, so I blanked one off with another bleed nipple).

Expecting a big change, saddly no, they feel pretty much the same. I have tried braking with the engine off and they are worse which makes me think the servo is okay.

Any suggestions Thanks

One or more flexi pipes failing?

Sounds like you have a 300tdi and they've sent 200 tdi calipers ...

As paul D above.
The 200s caipers have 3 nipples just like some early RRCs, the two rear nipples are bled as a pair the front/top one on it's own
Two entry points then that's two flexes required plus a T piece, your only using half of the caliper.
Send them back if u can.

Hi

Many thanks for the replies, it does indeed sound like Padocks have sent 200 tdi calipers.
I realised that there was something wrong with the wide selection of nipples plus the wrong hole sizes for the 2 fitting bolts and the pad retaining pins. After double checking Paddocks website I figured it was just one of those things with none Gen parts.

As the car was blocking my garage in bits I had to get it going so I reamered the holes to the correct sizes and built it up. Now that I know they are the wrong calipers with all this re-engineering I doubt Paddocks will have them back !

This leads me to the suggestion of a 'T' piece.
I assume that this is fitted after the flexy hose then two new metal pipes to the caliper ? does this sound correct, has anyone done this ? is it a success ? Or should I simply bite the bullet and buy two correct calipers

Thanks in advance Ian

Carry on with your ne calipers,the modification is done with twin flexies and a T piece on vented calipers also as they seem to be supplied with the 3 bleed nipples, and not only on LRs.

You may find a thread on fitting vented calipers on a disco on the www so just follow that.. your existing pipe into a T then the flexies and the short connection in to the caliper just like the original you had, a mirror image as thay say.

Some put a bridging pipe on the back of the caliper I believe, but how I haven't a clue

Again thanks for info.
The disc are solid (non-vented).
Does anyone have a picture of how the mod should look as I am unsure what I sould be aiming for.
Cheers Ian

Hi

Following on from excellent advice I have now converted the 200tdi calipers supplied to fit my 3oo tdi with new flexi's/pipes and a couple of T pieces.

I now have brakes that actually stop the vehicle rather than just slow it down.

However ! I have a spongy pedal that pumps up ! I have bled the buggers numerous times and there is no air in the system as far as I can tell (but there must be).
The olny thing I have not done is bleed the two middle nipples at the same time, I have done all 3 (or should that be 6) separatly.

Any suggestions ? I can;t think of how I could have got air into the rear system

Ian