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p38 wont try to turn over. Immo?

Discussion in 'Range Rover' started by RangeyAndy, Apr 10, 2010.

  1. RangeyAndy

    RangeyAndy New Member

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    Hi, really hope someone can help, my p38's battery was completely dead for about 5 days. I've put a new battery on and it wont start. the key remote works fine on all doors and manually in the drivers door. I turn the ignition on all as normal, message centre says usual window set msgs but no fault message or immobiliser msg. It wont try to turn over as if immobilised tried EKA but remote seems to operate ok. PLEASE HELP a Landyzone newbie.
     
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    I assume your just gettin a "Click" ... could be starter Motor Jammed run a cable direct to the Starter Motor .....If it STILL CLICKS ...when you connect it yer starter motors jammed

    Are we talkin Diesel, Petrol, Auto Or Manual here.....?????
     
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    RangeyAndy New Member

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    hi, the only click comes from a couple of relays nothing near the starter motor. ive looked at some of irishrovers old posts and it looks like the becm is not talking to the ecu. ie the becm is alarm locked or lost its handshake with the ecu. iether way it needs to plugged in to sort it. does this sound probable??

    ps the 'check engine' ignition light does not light up. this apparently indicates the above problem.

    thanks for your response.

    pps its a 4.0 V8 Auto.
     
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    Irishrover Well-Known Member

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    You need the "Check Engine" light on before you can start the engine. Either it's out of synch or more likely locked out.:behindsofa:
     
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    Irishrover Well-Known Member

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    If you still have problems, PM me.

    :behindsofa:
     
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    Yep!

    I second Irish. The becm & gems ecu are not looking for each other.
     
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    Thanks for all the help guys, just need to find someone in the somerset area with the right computer gear to fix this. any suggestions??????
     
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    The Mad Hat Man Well-Known Member LZIR Despatch Agent

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    I know a guy over Bath way - but I think his Nanocom got sold recently ;).

    Possibly eightinavee - but I think he has left the landrover scene - yu could PM him.
     
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    For my SINS.. I own/run theMGZR.co.uk :: MG ZR forum Having Members all over does help

    I've heard GOOD reports about

    Westsomerset landrovers

    Unit 8, Lobsgrove Park, Greenham, Nr Wellington, Somerset, TA21 0LY

    T : 01823 674561

    I'll try & get a Linky to their site... Be back in a Mo .....
     
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    thanks for the tip Mr Claw, Ill prob give the fookers a ring monday morning.

    cheers Andy.
     
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    What you are looking for is someone who has the BECM Direct memory module. Test Book doesn't do it, neither does Autologic. I think there is someone in South Wales or there is Rick the Pick or Andy R in the UK.
    If you are stuck, I can do it but you will have to send the becm over to me...total turnaround in about 5 days, unless you want to pay mega money on next day delivery both ways.
    :behindsofa:
     
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    Just found out today that the comms link under the dash has no power/connection. does anyone know what this could mean?

    cheers Andy.:confused:
     
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    Power to the OBD socket comes via a 3A or 5A fuse on the becm fuseboard, behind the trap door on the drivers seat skirt...can't remember exactly which one, the handbook will tell you.
    The obd is only a link to read and write to all the individual ecu's. A problem with the wiring to the socket, other than a short circuit is unlikely to cause the becm to hang up.
     
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    There's also a 5a fuse in the under bonnet fuse box that powers the OBD socket.

    You wont read anything if this 5a fuse has blown.

    Irish, unless the dash is sprouting out keycode lockout i don't think he needs our skills with the becm. I think it's just a gems relearn thats needed.
     
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    Once again thanks guys for your help, the journey continues.............

    cheers Andy.
     
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    Turned out the obd plug had some corrosion in it, after a quick clean it connected and a re-synch made my range breathe fire again!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Many thanks to landyzone members that offered advice which helped me to do the right things at the right time and as a result got it fixed for only £52 inc VAT.

    special thanks to T & S Norman. Somersets best kept secret!