P38 Westminster

Hello my fellow green oval owners .... Well sold me Jlo p38 hse 98 made a profit ,and going to buy another won yes won a 02 plate Westminster on eBay in lovely bonnitti grey and maple wood ... Has a few niggles for me price is 2k tax and tested mileage is 143k .... Some bugger removed the air and put springs on ,, be four you all say p38s don't do coils from the pics it looks very well done ... But I want to return her to air ...she is a 4.0 one not gassed ... Pity ... So come on what ya reckon good bad or a complete waste of cash ?? Cheers guys

tridentbus said:

Hello my fellow green oval owners .... Well sold me Jlo p38 hse 98 made a profit ,and going to buy another won yes won a 02 plate Westminster on eBay in lovely bonnitti grey and maple wood ... Has a few niggles for me price is 2k tax and tested mileage is 143k .... Some bugger removed the air and put springs on ,, be four you all say p38s don't do coils from the pics it looks very well done ... But I want to return her to air ...she is a 4.0 one not gassed ... Pity ... So come on what ya reckon good bad or a complete waste of cash ?? Cheers guys

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Doesn't sound too bad and at least it looks like the EAS components in engine bay is still there. New tyres as well.
Looks like an 51 plate to me
Be glad it hasn't been converted to gas - engine may be in better condition

put the extra and get a l322

wil2813 said:

put the extra and get a l322

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He's already bought it

I have already purchased it collect next week ...am told it is very very nice and will not be disappointed Ohhhh how I've heard that before ... The gentleman I got it off said he had to by it if he wanted the defender he was buying .. The air sups conversion. Was done by his garage as air sus failed mot ?? Not sure what he meant ... It looks as it sat quite low so hopefully she drives fine worse case I ll put her back on air ..well guess time will tell ... Is it worth gassing this engine ? Or not only do 6 miles to work each way so guess not really .. Bring on he winter hehehe

If you do low milage youll never get your money back from gasing it
Somone a while back worked it out cost of converction cost of gas and servicing v petrol and it worked out you need to do something like 60k just to break even

That's a fair point so it can stay as it is good ole unleaded ..

not sure 60k is right I know putting 80 liters of lpg in at 69p =£55. 80 liters of unleaded @1.37 =£109 and a full tank =£137........

I use at least 80 liters of lpg a week so that is 320 liters a month petrol would be at least 280 liters so i save £132 a month

lowfat said:

not sure 60k is right I know putting 80 liters of lpg in at 69p =£55. 80l iters of unleaded @1.37 =£109 and a full tank =£137........

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Well you're talking about £3.08p per gallon difference - averaging 18mpg, just 8,000 miles will pocket you just over £1300. The difference over 60K miles will buy you a tidy L322.

Dont forget the £1500 to fit a decent kit and god know what every year to service
The 60k was a rough guess i remember thinking is was about 4years motering for my milage might have been a bit less but still not worth doing to an older car

gfromleeds said:

Dont forget the £1500 to fit a decent kit and god know what every year to service
The 60k was a rough guess i remember thinking is was about 4years motering for my milage might have been a bit less but still not worth doing to an older car

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You forgot to add the cost of slipped liners or HGF

gfromleeds said:

Dont forget the £1500 to fit a decent kit and god know what every year to service
The 60k was a rough guess i remember thinking is was about 4years motering for my milage might have been a bit less but still not worth doing to an older car

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Yes, well I do (at least) 15K miles per year - so LPG would save me £2500 per year over running petrol - easily enough to buy a decent LPG kit and a new engine after 3 years! However I'm of the "if it ain't broke - don't fix it" ilk - I'm not bothered about fuel consumption - I like driving the car. Actually I'm almost hoping the engine will go bang coz I want to build a new one for fun! I give it regular (daily) thrashings at the traffic light GP and it still soldiers on!

Ok quick update .. Picked up said westminster .... And bloody wow she has had a replacement top end job done ...all nice and new ...... So happy drove her from Stroud to cambridge no worrys sweet and the best bit 50 off fuel 3/4 of a tank and got back with just under the half mark ...... So very pleased

tridentbus said:

Ok quick update .. Picked up said westminster .... And bloody wow she has had a replacement top end job done ...all nice and new ...... So happy drove her from Stroud to cambridge no worrys sweet and the best bit 50 off fuel 3/4 of a tank and got back with just under the half mark ...... So very pleased

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yes but will it start in the morning

yes it started this morning .... sweet v8 grumble to awake the neighbours ..ok day 2 blend motors need looking at cos heating hot one side cold other ... somer one put a parrot system in but screen naff may replace but no radio code.. air sus air block pipes pump and tank all in situ havent looked for ride hight senors yet ..dash reads max speed 35 mph going to bridge the ecu later and sorce air bags needs to be on air ...but in fairness handles quite well ... but its coming off ...and 1 sticky rear brake caliper .. thats it so far peeps ..... need air bags anyone ??

tridentbus said:

yes it started this morning .... sweet v8 grumble to awake the neighbours ..ok day 2 blend motors need looking at cos heating hot one side cold other ... somer one put a parrot system in but screen naff may replace but no radio code.. air sus air block pipes pump and tank all in situ havent looked for ride hight senors yet ..dash reads max speed 35 mph going to bridge the ecu later and sorce air bags needs to be on air ...but in fairness handles quite well ... but its coming off ...and 1 sticky rear brake caliper .. thats it so far peeps ..... need air bags anyone ??

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I need 2 rears if they are in a good condition and price!!!!

New update removed crappy parrot thing ...front self levelling sensors missing bugger ...on the plus point she has had a new engine ...so happy chappie ..going to replace the springs for air nice springs with blue marks ?? Tried to jump eas but won't work still was max35mph carnt get the height button on dash to light up ?? So any ideas on the max 35 mph plz guys its so annoying cheers

tridentbus said:

New update removed crappy parrot thing ...front self levelling sensors missing bugger ...on the plus point she has had a new engine ...so happy chappie ..going to replace the springs for air nice springs with blue marks ?? Tried to jump eas but won't work still was max35mph carnt get the height button on dash to light up ?? So any ideas on the max 35 mph plz guys its so annoying cheers

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You could clear it with diagnostics (speak to nice Mr Datatek re software/lead) then pull the eas relay.

When swooping to coils I think the instructions advise disconnecting the multi plug on the height control switch, pull the switch and check, also the kit includes a bridging loom for the BECM to dismiss the 35mph warning.