G-man
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tax has already been paid on it when you bought it, (lubrication oil is taxed to ****)
Oil grade?
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Sure,
Then read carefully the qualifications of the guy who wrote that crap.
He's hardly an independent unbiassed person!
"About The Author
Ed Newman is Marketing Manager for AMSOIL INC., manufacturer of the original synthetic motor oil for automotive applications. "
CharlesY
Ed Newman is Marketing Manager for AMSOIL INC., manufacturer of the original synthetic motor oil for automotive applications. "
CharlesY
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So,CharlesY,thanks for geting on this thread again....can you give me some more info on what grade of filter and what mix I need to use the lube as fuel,please?
PS to any doubters....my UTO is rated for cummins engines in trucks,merc,renault,iveco,MAN trucks and so on and on
PS to any doubters....my UTO is rated for cummins engines in trucks,merc,renault,iveco,MAN trucks and so on and on
My tractor ran all afternoon on the log splitter, on a fuel that is some red diesel, all the ENGINE oil drained from my TD5 and a Def 90 300tdi, a heap of biodiesel, some hydraulic oil, and anything else liquid that burns. It starts fine and runs fine. I don't like paying good money for tractor fuel.
Thin the lube oil down with white spirit or Kero, but NOT petrol in any TD5 as the TD5 fuel WILL get hotter than the boiling point of petrol. The mix isn't critical, as long as it looks about as runny as diesel. Take a little care with TD5 engines because of the fuel pump set up.
In REAL Landy Diesels with a lift pump and a real fuel injection pump, more or less any fuel brew will be fine, and use standard FUEL filters of course.
Carry spare filters everywhere you go.
Remember, as an example, in a Disco with a 90 litre / 20 gallon tank about half-full, if you toss in 5 gallons of used filtered engine oil, (a) the mix will be fine, (b) the car will run a lot better - smooter and more pull, and (c) you just saved yourself a straight £25 cash just like that.
Even better, it's LEGAL!
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That's bit like me running my old Austin Champ, any thing I could get hold of went in even paraffin but that was a a few years ago 
That's bit like me running my old Austin Champ, any thing I could get hold of went in even paraffin but that was a a few years ago
Sure, but the petrol engines can be a bit fussy about fuel. That is why the Farm Tractors using TVO (tractor vaporising oil also known as Paraffin or Kerosene) always started up on petrol from a small tank, and ran on that until the manifolds were hot enough to vaporise the kerosene. Then a tap was turned and kerosene from the main tank was sent to the carburettor instead of petrol. Once the kerosene vaporised, the sparks were plenty good enough to get it lit.
Diesels are a lot less fussy in the combustion process. If the compression is up to par, then more or less any oily liquid fuel will do. The first diesels were actually designed to use coal dust as their fuel.
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Having read this thread with great interest, I am now going to add " Graduate in petrol chemical engineering" to my CV. However just in case Red Adair is on the interview panel and brings up coal dust I have gotta ask " How that works ?
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Wasn't peanut oil the fuel of choice for a while as well?
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Thats right ! rudolf Diesel invented the engine to run on peanut oil .He was found floating in the sea ,the verdict of his death was reported to be acidental [he fell overboard from a ship]
Many believed there was foul play because of his involvment with the french military.
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I fink it wuz coal dust n germanyThats right ! rudolf Diesel invented the engine to run on peanut oil .He was found floating in the sea ,the verdict of his death was reported to be acidental [he fell overboard from a ship]
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Wrong
Most Synthetic oil is highly refined mineral oil known as group 3, group 4 synthetic contains PAO which is also derived from crude oil, group 5 synthetics are esters and are not made from crude oil.
Semi synthetic has no more than 30% synthetic oil in it and that synthetic oil is highly refined mineral oil (group 3)
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Makes ya wonder how can they call it synthetic
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Due to how much it is refined and changed it can no longer be classed as a mineral or semi synthetic. i guess a more accurate name would be 'Virtually Synthetic' lol
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Coal dust it was indeed.My father,many years ago,worked running big boilers that ran on high pressure injected coal dust......not the same as an engine,but the dust injection was similar,he said.There was a huge grinder that powdered coal by the ton then piped it away to the injectors.
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CY,any advice on initial filtering?Are we talking nylon scouring pad or 5 micron cartidge.....or somewhere in between?
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why not put it though a diesel filter 'off' the car?
then at least your filtering it to the same degree as the one 'in' the car...
I agree.
But first, let TIME do the job - let it settle out, and decant the oil off the TOP, not the bottom.
After that if it passes through the fuel filter that suits your engine, all should be well.
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As a thought, if synthetic oil isn't synthetic why haven't the oil companies been taken to court under the trades description act !!!!!
If LR sell a vehicle which is miss-described in a brouchure they would be in trouble. I used to work for a company that stated in a spec sheet that all models of a particular vehicle had ABS, wrong, the entry model didn't and we were taken to court. The customer who bought the vehicle won his case and we had to pay up and reprint the offending spec sheet!
OldDiscoMan
!!!!!If LR sell a vehicle which is miss-described in a brouchure they would be in trouble. I used to work for a company that stated in a spec sheet that all models of a particular vehicle had ABS, wrong, the entry model didn't and we were taken to court. The customer who bought the vehicle won his case and we had to pay up and reprint the offending spec sheet!
OldDiscoMan
Because there is no legal definition of "synthetic". There has already been legal battles between oil companies about one using the word synthetic on what the others did not class as such.As a thought, if synthetic oil isn't synthetic why haven't the oil companies been taken to court under the trades description act
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As a thought, if synthetic oil isn't synthetic why haven't the oil companies been taken to court under the trades description act
If LR sell a vehicle which is miss-described in a brouchure they would be in trouble. I used to work for a company that stated in a spec sheet that all models of a particular vehicle had ABS, wrong, the entry model didn't and we were taken to court. The customer who bought the vehicle won his case and we had to pay up and reprint the offending spec sheet!
OldDiscoMan
There was a case between Castrol and Mobil, Castrol were using the group 3 and calling it synthetic and Mobil were using Group 4 PAO and got a bit upset.
Castrol ended up winning the case because the Group 3 oil was so altered from it's original state it could no longer be called a mineral or semi synthetic.
Semi Synthetics as a rule have no more than 30% synthetic oil in them and it's almost always group 3.
