lane rating?

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Leon.

Leon.

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hello.

is there a rating system for lanes? like pitches or problems for climbers or rapids for canoeists. i went out this weekend to wales and had a blast doing a few lanes i had not done before. i / we managed everything we came up against. had some of them been any moor challenging though we may have come unstuck witch got me thinking. so is there a grading system?
 
no cos if they are a lane thats impassible by car maybe you can get by on a bike or horse.If the lanes too churned up then ya shouldnt **** it more.
 
it was not mud that was worrying me. you can gage mud normally by looking at previous wether and haw tyre tracks look on the lane. i was thinking moor about steps or gradients of hills and side slopes that sort of thing. kind of the average of topographic problems you may encounter. or the crux of a lane.
 
there are lanes that your permitted to drive but arent physcally able to eg narrow or bridges etc over head
 
exactly that. they may get a 5 and a note about max with or hight.you may be able to get a jimney or sj dawn them. 4 might need an experienced driver in a well prepared car. a 3 could be driven by the same man in a freelander or most people in a defender. maybe it has a side slope that needs care or some steps that require spoting dawn. a 2 could be driven bye all 4x4's presuming that the ground is dry ad firm and a 1 could be driven in my passat estate for a family picnic but is not tarmac throughout. these are examples and odveousley drivers experience who grades a lane would have a lot do do with haw it is graded. climbing grades have the same subjectabilitey. these could be subdivided, 3a, 3b, 3c, for example. a 3c would have a hole in that now matter haw good the driver was he could only get a freelander dawn with the aid of a bridging ladder. i could go on and on with examples but i gess this system does not exist. o well. cortion, growing experience and respect for the countryside is the way forward. just wondering if i had missed something.
 
Leon. said:
exactly that. they may get a 5 and a note about max with or hight.you may be able to get a jimney or sj dawn them. 4 might need an experienced driver in a well prepared car. a 3 could be driven by the same man in a freelander or most people in a defender. maybe it has a side slope that needs care or some steps that require spoting dawn. a 2 could be driven bye all 4x4's presuming that the ground is dry ad firm and a 1 could be driven in my passat estate for a family picnic but is not tarmac throughout. these are examples and odveousley drivers experience who grades a lane would have a lot do do with haw it is graded. climbing grades have the same subjectabilitey. these could be subdivided, 3a, 3b, 3c, for example. a 3c would have a hole in that now matter haw good the driver was he could only get a freelander dawn with the aid of a bridging ladder. i could go on and on with examples but i gess this system does not exist. o well. cortion, growing experience and respect for the countryside is the way forward. just wondering if i had missed something.
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Impossible theres too many varibels.soryy for the short blunt answer but me birds lap top is playing up and ive tried answering this 3 times!!111:mad:
 
Leon. said:
exactly that. they may get a 5 and a note about max with or hight.you may be able to get a jimney or sj dawn them. 4 might need an experienced driver in a well prepared car. a 3 could be driven by the same man in a freelander or most people in a defender. maybe it has a side slope that needs care or some steps that require spoting dawn. a 2 could be driven bye all 4x4's presuming that the ground is dry ad firm and a 1 could be driven in my passat estate for a family picnic but is not tarmac throughout. these are examples and odveousley drivers experience who grades a lane would have a lot do do with haw it is graded. climbing grades have the same subjectabilitey. these could be subdivided, 3a, 3b, 3c, for example. a 3c would have a hole in that now matter haw good the driver was he could only get a freelander dawn with the aid of a bridging ladder. i could go on and on with examples but i gess this system does not exist. o well. cortion, growing experience and respect for the countryside is the way forward. just wondering if i had missed something.
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There are lanes suitable for Gaylanders? Lasat time a gaylander came out with us it made it 22 yards into the first lane and got towed the rest of the way! (Made me jealous!)
 
Ow I know there are. There are lains I could do I'm my trackslag. Grade 1.

Though I have been toled theis kind of grading system is far to subjective. Not shaw haw it would differ from grading rapids or climbing pitches but hay. It dose not exest and I am not expereanced enough to start compiling one.
 
I like the idea .. it's only meant as a guide after all .. ;)

It's done on all kinds of other outdoor activities, like mountain biking, which also have completely varying conditions depending on weather etc so it could apply here ... the main problem as I see it is that many of the lanes change their legality, sometimes week to week, sometimes annually and sometimes randomly (it seems)!! It'd be a brave man in these litigious times, who would put his name to saying a lane is a particular level of difficulty, and the first person to drive it gets 'done'!!

The other issue we have in 4x4's and green-laning is who would have the final say? There isn't one overall governing body, it isn't a recognised sport and in fact most government/council/other authorities don't really want 4x4's on their 'patch'.

Great idea, but I think unworkable ....
 
Hhy not a 7 digit code?

1- road surface (1=tarmac,9=deep mud/bog)
2- water depth (max).
3- max drop/jump.
4- depth of ruts
5- side slope
6- max angle of attack
7- vegetation ( damage to bodywork)
ie 4262132 = a fairly rough surface with 2ft waterholes, 600mm drop, 4" ruts. 10 degree side slopes. 30 degree angle of attack and branches up to 1"diameter.
Or 1000000 = freelander friendly ;) :bolt:

Wouldnt that take the fun out of it?
 
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Why not just use plain English ..

"Fookin' basterd to get up, easy down"
"Some buggas chewed it up wiv' a Tractor"
"Bottomless pit of doom!"

etc

;)
 
MHM. Like a midi word.

Maby it would take the fun out of it for some but it would also take the fear out for others. I have been asked befor by people lots of questions about a pained areabout to head dawn. Will this scratch my paint? Are my tyres agro enough? Does it mater i don't have a lift? If I have not actualy driven a lain I canot ancer with any kind of idear.

Paul.
You are right. Being part of this comunity helps. 9 out of 10 times you can find someone to give you thare take on a lain. I hasnot eaven thought about legality and I supose if you published a list of easey lains thay would soon be cloesed as droves started using them as shortkuts or picnicking places.

Shhhhhh
 
Leon. said:
Paul.
You are right. Being part of this comunity helps. 9 out of 10 times you can find someone to give you thare take on a lain. I hasnot eaven thought about legality and I supose if you published a list of easey lains thay would soon be cloesed as droves started using them as shortkuts or picnicking places.

Shhhhhh
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Yup .. one of the big reasons we try to get people to think for themselves and get them to work out the legality of local lanes for themselves (at least why I now don't just pass on full details easily) is that there are so many feckwits about who'd just go and rip lanes to shreds with monster tyres and no thought for anyone else but for their own 'fun' .. which then gets all of us accused of doing or condoning.

I happily take people out down the lanes I know, but don't pass on details, that's for them to do or record for themselves, but then they'll see how I drive them. Hopefully they'll see I respect them, I respect the landowners and anyone I meet along them and try as hard as possible to tread lightly.

Big problem down our way is that most lanes are easily accessible to road-oriented 4x4's, and Transits etc, and are regularly fly-tipped just 'cos they're so accessible. They're also pretty delicate, mostly mud or sand and get cut-up easily. I'm fed up reporting blocked lanes, even though they're cleared quickly. So for me having a notarised guide to how good, bad or gnarly they are might very well be counter-productive, lead to more council intervention and even more random TRO's 'just because' ...

Still a good idea, mind. ;)
 
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