It is worth it? FL1 2000 1.8

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WLJayne said:
Now this is purely speculation, but the SD4 FL2's and Pukevoques would have TC designed for 2wd, whereas a neutured FL1 still thinks it's 4wd. Might that be an issue?
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Not an issue with a 2wd Freelander at all. The TC works on all 4 wheels independently so if the 2 rear wheels aren't spinning faster than the average of all 4 it does nothing to them at all but still applies the brakes to the spinning front wheels. Iirc the Abs has to adopt a different strategy but it's still able to function correctly. Some folks think a 2wd Hippo drives better than when in 4wd. I'm not convinced about it being better but they do drive differently in 2wd.
 
storm99 said:
Isnt it common for HGF at around that mileage?
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I'm too scared to admit the amount of time I've spent reading threads on this forum since buying my first Freelander a couple of months ago but I can safely say one of things I've read over and over again is that HGF can and will happen at any time whatsoever!

I've also learnt that HGF has probably happened well before that sort of mileage and already been replaced, only to happen again at some random point in the future.

Am I right, or am I right?
 
storm99 said:
You're right...so you may have answered your own question! Good luck...worth a punt really.
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I'm not buying it the op is!

Must say though at a few hundred quid I say buy it, have a bit of fun with it,run it into the ground then break it up or sell it as spares/repair and earn your money back and more.
 
Nodge68 said:
Not an issue with a 2wd Freelander at all. The TC works on all 4 wheels independently so if the 2 rear wheels aren't spinning faster than the average of all 4 it does nothing to them at all but still applies the brakes to the spinning front wheels. Iirc the Abs has to adopt a different strategy but it's still able to function correctly. Some folks think a 2wd Hippo drives better than when in 4wd. I'm not convinced about it being better but they do drive differently in 2wd.
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Good answer N68 - Clearly, I completely missed Will's point in my reply:) The issue about whether they drive better in 2WD (on normal roads) is a matter of taste. Having just gone back to prop re connected, immediately notice that she don't role so freely, spech, of course in tight turns - now, you soon get used to this again. The fleaby is FWD for most of the time, as we know - not permanent 4x4 like say a Disco. The slight drag effect of the VCU does give it a sure footedness on the road, which is good - so its a compromise. More modern systems are able to completely disassociate the front wheels from the back under normal driving conditions. I do agree with the general notion that a healthy FL1 works well as a FWD/4x4.
Just think it helps to understand the merits and limitations!
 
storm99 said:
Isnt it common for HGF at around that mileage?
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There is no guarantee the HG will fail soon or at all tbh. The only time most of us hear about HGF's is because one has failed. There are tens if not hundreds of thousands of K series engines out there that have remained HGF free ;)
 
storm99 said:
Hundreds of thousands???
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The official failure rate was something like 0.8% iirc. There were around 2500,000 yes that's 2.5 Million k series engines built so yes it's hundreds of thousands of trouble free engines ;) even if the failure rate was 10% which is very unlikely there would still be 2250,000 trouble free k series engines about if all the k powered cars were still about ;)
 
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DD3 said:
Good answer N68 - Clearly, I completely missed Will's point in my reply:) The issue about whether they drive better in 2WD (on normal roads) is a matter of taste. Having just gone back to prop re connected, immediately notice that she don't role so freely, spech, of course in tight turns - now, you soon get used to this again. The fleaby is FWD for most of the time, as we know - not permanent 4x4 like say a Disco. The slight drag effect of the VCU does give it a sure footedness on the road, which is good - so its a compromise. More modern systems are able to completely disassociate the front wheels from the back under normal driving conditions. I do agree with the general notion that a healthy FL1 works well as a FWD/4x4.
Just think it helps to understand the merits and limitations!
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In pure practical terms, dropping the prop for the Summer gives the whole transmission and tyres a rest. Issue with this is that being lazy, I have then been thru Winters in mondo having not refitted the bleddy thing - and tbh it still copes fairly well. I should say that my interest in off roading is largely satisfied by going along and watchin, save the odd, mild pay and play event.
 
DD3 said:
In pure practical terms, dropping the prop for the Summer gives the whole transmission and tyres a rest. Issue with this is that being lazy, I have then been thru Winters in mondo having not refitted the bleddy thing - and tbh it still copes fairly well. I should say that my interest in off roading is largely satisfied by going along and watchin, save the odd, mild pay and play event.
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I agree with you there which is why my Freelander runs as a 2wd though the summer!!
 
I'll be keeping my prop on :). I didn't like how juddery accelaration was and the lack of grip on wet roads in mondo mode. That was just my experience.

I will be changing my transmission fluids probably every year now so my gearbox and IRD should be in tip top health and as long as I watch my VCU the whole thing should be just happy as a clam all year round :).
 
WLJayne said:
I'll be keeping my prop on :). I didn't like how juddery accelaration was and the lack of grip on wet roads in mondo mode. That was just my experience.

I will be changing my transmission fluids probably every year now so my gearbox and IRD should be in tip top health and as long as I watch my VCU the whole thing should be just happy as a clam all year round :).
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That's cool, so long as peeps understand the issue. My only grip issues came when I fitted 40mm lift kit without re doing the tracking and camber - now that was fooking terrifying? All back to standard now:)
 
WLJayne said:
I'll be keeping my prop on :). I didn't like how juddery accelaration was and the lack of grip on wet roads in mondo mode. That was just my experience.

I will be changing my transmission fluids probably every year now so my gearbox and IRD should be in tip top health and as long as I watch my VCU the whole thing should be just happy as a clam all year round :).
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You want to try a mondo mode V6!! If you give it to much throttle it smokes the tyres, even in the wet!!
 
Nodge68 said:
The official failure rate was something like 0.8% iirc. There were around 2500,000 yes that's 2.5 Million k series engines built so yes it's hundreds of thousands of trouble free engines ;) even if the failure rate was 10% which is very unlikely there would still be 2250,000 trouble free k series engines about if all the k powered cars were still about ;)
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I've seen these figures on other sources. Overall this engine has been highly successful and read that enthusiasts love em. I've spent too long worrying about my K going HGF and never has! I do look after it - not fanatically though and I don't drive it over hard.
 
DD3 said:
Never driven a V6 Fleabag myself but must be very different from the 1800 - heard its like a hot hatch!!:D
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They are pretty quick for a 4X4. It's sub 9 seconds to 60!! I'd describe it as warm hatch performance. My V6 will out pace my wifes VW Tiguan by quite a margin. But the Freelander is slow compared to my tuned ZS180!! I'd like to improve the Freelander's performance but I don't want to make it unreliable in the process.
 
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