Is this hole as bad as it seems!

ProjectX · Jan 28, 2020

Hi guys,

bought a landy that I was told was solid.
Took it all at face value over e bay and now swallowing a bitter pill.
Here’s another hole I discovered in the footwell. Shouldn’t it have failed the mot in November if it was this bad?

is this one an easy patch job?

cheers

mark.

Interceptorxj · Jan 28, 2020

No that is not an MOT fail as not considered structural as such. That is a very minor hole for a Defender and very simple to repair so if that is all you have I would consider yourself blessed.

Turboman · Jan 28, 2020

ProjectX said:
Hi guys,

bought a landy that I was told was solid.
Took it all at face value over e bay and now swallowing a bitter pill.
Here’s another hole I discovered in the footwell. Shouldn’t it have failed the mot in November if it was this bad?

is this one an easy patch job?

cheers

mark.
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It actually says on an MOT, "a valid MOT certificate is no guarantee of the mechanical condition of the vehicle".

Also, I am not sure if that is a fail. It would have been under the carpet at the time of test, so not visible.
And it isn't structural, or within the required distance of a structural component. Or dangerous to the user or the public.
Sure one of the several MOT testers on the forum will clarify that.

Easy enough job to repair anyway.

kermit_rr · Jan 28, 2020

I think holes must be not less than 30cm from a structural point, eg spring hanger, door hinge etc

Might be wrong tho

ProjectX · Jan 28, 2020

Thanks guys. Its just got a load of small rot holes all over really.

would I be right in saying get the rot out, filler in, then etch prime then top coat in these ones?

kermit_rr · Jan 28, 2020

Weld a patch, that's not what filler is for

ProjectX · Jan 28, 2020

I would do but I’m borrowing a garage. I plan to get a welder this coming year.... I take your point- BUT will filler some in these bits temporarily as I’m in the process of spraying

derwendolly · Jan 28, 2020

ProjectX said:
I would do but I’m borrowing a garage. I plan to get a welder this coming year.... I take your point- BUT will filler some in these bits temporarily as I’m in the process of spraying

'If a job's worth doing it's worth doing properly' comes to mind.

ProjectX · Jan 28, 2020

derwendolly said:
'If a job's worth doing it's worth doing properly' comes to mind.

On the other hand I could be setting up a conversation for the future on landy zone if you get my rourkes drift

potus · Jan 28, 2020

Sorry but the bulkhead doesn't look too great IMO, think you'll be finding a bit more rot as you investigate further.

Turboman · Jan 28, 2020

potus said:
Sorry but the bulkhead doesn't look too great IMO, think you'll be finding a bit more rot as you investigate further.

Lot of rot breaking through. The rusty Britpart fuel filter isn't a great sign of a much loved vehicle either.

potus · Jan 28, 2020

ProjectX said:
Hi guys,

bought a landy that I was told was solid.
Took it all at face value over e bay

I hope for your sake we're proved wrong but a land rover defender is one vehicle I would never buy without viewing.

dieseldog69 · Jan 28, 2020

What kennels did you get her from?

ProjectX · Jan 28, 2020

In all honesty, after reading the messages, I’ve been over her with a fine tooth comb and from my albeit limited knowledge, I can’t find any other patches of rot. The annoying thing is that the ad said that bulkhead had been replaced about 6 years ago....which looks like it hasn’t been....but the chassis looks really very good... pics here

goonarmy · Jan 29, 2020

Turboman said:
Lot of rot breaking through. The rusty Britpart fuel filter isn't a great sign of a much loved vehicle either.

Wow, that is bad.

Turboman · Jan 29, 2020

ProjectX said:
In all honesty, after reading the messages, I’ve been over her with a fine tooth comb and from my albeit limited knowledge, I can’t find any other patches of rot. The annoying thing is that the ad said that bulkhead had been replaced about 6 years ago....which looks like it hasn’t been....but the chassis looks really very good... pics here
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Chassis looks OK. However, the problem areas are the outriggers, the tube outriggers, and where the rear upper crossmember attaches to the chassis. You need to look at those.
That chassis has some surface rust, and looks very dry. Needs some TLC as soon as possible, or it is only going one way.

dieseldog69 · Jan 29, 2020

ProjectX said:
In all honesty, after reading the messages, I’ve been over her with a fine tooth comb and from my albeit limited knowledge, I can’t find any other patches of rot. The annoying thing is that the ad said that bulkhead had been replaced about 6 years ago....which looks like it hasn’t been....but the chassis looks really very good... pics here
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Pull that wading plug out of the bottom of the bell housing, it will only fill up with oil and ruin your clutch

Just because the bulkhead was replaced, that's not to say it was with a brand new one or even a very well painted and rustproofed second hand one, 6 years of UK salt ridden roads takes it toll on any vehicle let alone with serious water ingress issues built in from the factory

You need to get them leaks sealed up, don't listen to the age old excuse of "it's a land rover, they all leak oil"

It's laziness and certainly not cost of parts that lets these vehicles down.

boguing · Jan 29, 2020

ProjectX said:
Thanks guys. Its just got a load of small rot holes all over really.

would I be right in saying get the rot out, filler in, then etch prime then top coat in these ones?

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That one bothers me a bit. Was there a lot of mud against it? If not you need to take a hammer and follow it tapping it back past the front axle, because rust there is bad news. Same the other side.

ProjectX · Jan 29, 2020

boguing said:
That one bothers me a bit. Was there a lot of mud against it? If not you need to take a hammer and follow it tapping it back past the front axle, because rust there is bad news. Same the other side.

Thanks for this advice. Will follow through with that when I’m next at the garage which is next week.

thank you too gents for your all your input.

i looked up a great old thread on boiled linseed oil, and am going to saturate the chassis in it (obviously inside chassis and out!!!!)

Ratae · Jan 30, 2020

This one?
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/linseed-oil-anti-rust-treatment.242113/

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