P38A Insurance prices getting silly

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Datatek said:
True but in the days of the Brixton key, hot wiring was simple. Much easier now just to clone the FOB because once you are in, no key is needed to start the car, just press the button.
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Its a bit unfair ,In that p38 are prity hard to steal ,and modern stuffs easier ,but we are all being tared with the same brush....Mind you i had a Mitsubishi shogun 14 years ago an no one would touch it ,Till i got a certified immobilizer fitted and it was tamper proof ,funny looking back now ,but it was a( Pina ) back then ,Even my Peugeot 306 had a number key pad to start it ,wonder if that stuff nowadays would make a difference ;) .
 
dubbleRR said:
Its a bit unfair ,In that p38 are prity hard to steal ,and modern stuffs easier ,but we are all being tared with the same brush....Mind you i had a Mitsubishi shogun 14 years ago an no one would touch it ,Till i got a certified immobilizer fitted and it was tamper proof ,funny looking back now ,but it was a( Pina ) back then ,Even my Peugeot 306 had a number key pad to start it ,wonder if that stuff nowadays would make a difference ;) .
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It was notable when hiring cars in Tenerife that the keypads had been ripped out so bypassing them must have been easy.
 
Datatek said:
True but in the days of the Brixton key, hot wiring was simple. Much easier now just to clone the FOB because once you are in, no key is needed to start the car, just press the button.
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I thought keyless cars were supposed to cut out if the key becomes out of range ?

Mate of mine dropped kids at school, and then back home. Fob was in his pocket, when his wife took the car to work. Apparently she only got about 1/2 mile before the car cut out. It was either a Merc C-class, or Audi, but can't remember.
 
pwood999 said:
I thought keyless cars were supposed to cut out if the key becomes out of range ?

Mate of mine dropped kids at school, and then back home. Fob was in his pocket, when his wife took the car to work. Apparently she only got about 1/2 mile before the car cut out. It was either a Merc C-class, or Audi, but can't remember.
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But not with a cloned FOB.
 
Datatek said:
Keyless entry has been a real boon for the car thieves.
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You're not wrong. I've tried to find out more about that and why, in general, prices are so high. Looks like some companies are now offering reduced premiums if you implement security measures. I appreciate they come at a cost, but then if it's getting your silly insurance price down then it's a small win. Adrian Flux (https://www.adrianflux.co.uk/blog/2023/12/range-rover-insurance-expensive/) is one example, although I doubt they're alone in trying to find ways to help bring the thefts down that are screwing us all over.
 
Gav1987 said:
You're not wrong. I've tried to find out more about that and why, in general, prices are so high. Looks like some companies are now offering reduced premiums if you implement security measures. I appreciate they come at a cost, but then if it's getting your silly insurance price down then it's a small win. Adrian Flux (https://www.adrianflux.co.uk/blog/2023/12/range-rover-insurance-expensive/) is one example, although I doubt they're alone in trying to find ways to help bring the thefts down that are screwing us all over.
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For a tech savvy crooks, IMO most modern cars are easy to steal.
 
Gav1987 said:
It's not great is it? It feels like a constant race between car manufacturers and criminals as to who can stay in front of the other.
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Cars became increasing hard to steal in the 80's and 90's only for the marketing men to reverse the trend. I can't remember the name but there used to be an organisation in the UK that assessed vehicle security.
 
Just insured my Camper, used Flux again and managed to get it at a similar price to last year.
Got a disc lock on steering and going to fit a hidden battery master switch, can't do much more but it's enough to put them off trying to steal it.
 
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