How many dont have an Engine Cooling Fan?

How many people have a TD5 without any Engine cooling fan ?
I'm hearing off people that have removed the mechanical fan and have no issues with overheating.

you can and probably never need it but one day stuck in trafic etc you well might wished you kept it on ,fan isnt needed when vehicle is moving air flow is enough to cool it ,thats why its a viscous type so that it isnt really working till rads very hot

I know people take them off on the 300tdi (myself included) but don't the TD5s run a lot hotter?

.....No idea but suppose with 5 cylinders would produce more heat. Having changed my radiator for a new one and removed the fan to do so just wondering my options?!?!

Standing in traffic for a long time would cause the engine to overheat none the less.

Disc300Series said:

.....No idea but suppose with 5 cylinders would produce more heat. Having changed my radiator for a new one and removed the fan to do so just wondering my options?!?!

Standing in traffic for a long time would cause the engine to overheat none the less.

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not with a fan it wouldnt thats what they are for ,it produces more power more power more heat

I drive my 300 without the fan and even towed my caravan down to Wales without it !
If I was stuck in traffic on a very hot day my arse hole would start twitching a bit though! Its a good idea to keep it handy with a viscous spanner in the back.

I think its bonkers to remove a working viscous fan unit !. They only engage when they get hot, and spend the rest if the time freewheeling.

Always amazes me that so many people slate the, " troublesome electrics ", of the D2, and then go and change a reliable, mechanical cooling fan for an electric one.

If your viscous fan packs up it just locks up and overcools. If your electric fan packs up you overheat and can damage the head. ( very costly ).

These are just my opinions of course.

opinions I agree with.
my viscous fan has recently packed up. i.e it spins all the time, and I`ve got some slop on the fan. so do need to replace it.
so I had thought about searching for a fan that is fixed. i.e no viscous, just spins all the time. just like on a Honda cx500 motorbike.
don't know if such a thing exists though.

I take mine off in the winter, but its back on when it gets warmer. Towing a horse trailer there are some very long hills around here, and the engine smells hot even though the temp gauge doesnt move.........

My rangie came with Kenlowe fans fitted. I have only ever used them once and that was to see if they worked.

Mine came on for the first time this year yesterday, a sure sign that the big heat has arrived. Outside temp was 39, and it had been working hard going up a mountain road. (V8 4.6 D2 )

IMO dont mess with the cooling on the Td5... you can remove the viscous fan in the winter but for summer it's better to be there...or at least an electric fan with thermostat to kick in at max 100*C. The gauge on Td5 will stay on the middle untill 115*C then rise to the next level...and the management is conceived to activate the electric cooling/aircon fan to help the cooling at 110*C to protect the engine...and if the small fan is not in working order too you risk to damage the head without even the gauge to show you that... e.g. use it for long between 100 and 115*C.

I Leave well alone and have no issues with cooling fan, factory fitted on D2.

IMO dont mess with the cooling on the Td5... you can remove the viscous fan in the winter but for summer it's better to be there...or at least an electric fan with thermostat to kick in at max 100*C. The gauge on Td5 will stay on the middle untill 115*C then rise to the next level...and the management is conceived to activate the electric cooling/aircon fan to help the cooling at 110*C to protect the engine...and if the small fan is not in working order too you risk to damage the head without even the gauge to show you that... e.g. use it for long between 100 and 115*C.

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Wise words indeed!

Just to add an old tip that us oldies will know but there may some be that dont, if the engine starts running hot, open the windows turn the heater on full and the blower on full blast (and turn air con and all unecesary electrics off) You might swelter, but you might just save your engine!

Wise words indeed!

Just to add an old tip that us oldies will know but there may some be that dont, if the engine starts running hot, open the windows turn the heater on full and the blower on full blast (and turn air con and all unecesary electrics off) You might swelter, but you might just save your engine!
can I also add, If your motors getting hot with all the above, pull the bonnet release to let more airflow over the top of the engine.. DONT do silly miles an hour though, even tie down the bonnet in the first click of open if neccesery..
wise words that man..

back in the days, in the mid 70`s we had the most horrid heatwave,
I never had a landie but an old corsair 1500 auto towing a race car on a trailor from essex to northampton stadium.
the sheer amont of broken down vehicles on the motorway looked like an end of world film, but with an old valve spring wired under the bonnet spring, plus a lump of rope stopping the bonnet from lifting never stopped me going either way on my travels.
that tip of aiding engine/gearbox airflow has stayed with me ever since....

it works for me if i needed it to.

but best thing is to leave viscous fan well alone until its broke.

Unfortunately with the D1 300 series and D2s the heaters are air blending so are hot as soon as the engine is, there's no control for turning it on or off, only the temp of the air flow and direction or not of flow, unlike the older vehicles.

August 1976 had the heat wave for 6 weeks IIRC, that year I purchased a new Ford Capri for £2800, so remember the month/year well.

discool said:

Unfortunately with the D1 300 series and D2s the heaters are air blending so are hot as soon as the engine is, there's no control for turning it on or off, only the temp of the air flow and direction or not of flow, unlike the older vehicles.

August 1976 had the heat wave for 6 weeks IIRC, that year I purchased a new Ford Capri for £2800, so remember the month/year well.

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that was the best summer ever iirc..except it was the year i got married,so that fecked it up good style.

Just an added thought, the engine cover must hold heat in, and prevent the head dissipating heat, might be worth taking it off whilst towing in hot temperatures.

Would the engine be much noisier? Any thoughts?

m500dpp said:

Just an added thought, the engine cover must hold heat in, and prevent the head dissipating heat, might be worth taking it off whilst towing in hot temperatures.

Would the engine be much noisier? Any thoughts?

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ive had mine removed for a good 3 weeks now as been tinkering under there!
don't really notice it now, just got used to it, forgot about it until you mentioned it or i look under the bonnet!

when i bought my 04 td5 the fan was smashed to bits i went for a kenlowe fan but being a dummy when it comes to wiring it up i wired it up incorrectly and as i tow plant and machinery i boiled up blowing the head gasket it cost me over a grand to fix i still run with a kenlowe wired correctly but would not risk not having a fan they are cheap and easy to replace compared to a head gasket