HID xenon conversion kits

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:37:18 +0000, Austin Shackles wrote:

>> Agreed, I think Austin may have confused "type approval" with
>> "construction and use".
>
> no, I didn't.

Apologies.

> I can't find any reference to lights in C&U - the lights are in Road
> Vehicle Lighting Regulations. I imagine that the HID lights are in
> an update to that but as yet I've not actually found it.

A quick google doesn't through up anything other than many multiple
posts of an old letter proporting to come from the "powers that be"
saying that HID is not mentioned in the RVLR therefore they are
illegal. New cars can have them provided they have EU type approval.
The UK cannot refuse to license a vehicle that has EU type approval.

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On or around Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:42:52 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:37:18 +0000, Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>>> Agreed, I think Austin may have confused "type approval" with
>>> "construction and use".
>>
>> no, I didn't.
>
>Apologies.
>
>> I can't find any reference to lights in C&U - the lights are in Road
>> Vehicle Lighting Regulations. I imagine that the HID lights are in
>> an update to that but as yet I've not actually found it.
>
>A quick google doesn't through up anything other than many multiple
>posts of an old letter proporting to come from the "powers that be"
>saying that HID is not mentioned in the RVLR therefore they are
>illegal. New cars can have them provided they have EU type approval.
>The UK cannot refuse to license a vehicle that has EU type approval.

yeah, well, this is where it gets tricky. While hunting through email for
what transpired to be a well out of date registration code I found a letter
from Mr. Hughes, he of hughesguides, who commented on the enormous amount of
legislation and the impossibility of inlcuding it all, and that's before you
start on the EU stuff.

recent UK legislation is published on the internet, but as ever, *finding*
the bit you want it the tricky bit.
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On or around Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:42:52 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>A quick google doesn't through up anything other than many multiple
>posts of an old letter proporting to come from the "powers that be"
>saying that HID is not mentioned in the RVLR therefore they are
>illegal. New cars can have them provided they have EU type approval.
>The UK cannot refuse to license a vehicle that has EU type approval.

RVLR is online here:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_1.htm

searching on opsi (and they missed a trick, it could have been called
oopsi..) for [road vehicles lighting] finds 382 hits... I bet somewhere in
all that is reference to HID headlamps.

I find, in 2005, it's now legal to have flashing front or rear position
lights on a pedal cycle.

searching for HID lamps got no hits.

searching for self-levelling got one:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1993/Uksi_19933232_en_1.htm
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On or around Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:09:30 +0000, nemo2 <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>I thinking of giving the Osram Silver Star bulbs a try, £18.45 from
>www.powerbulbs.co.uk maybe cheaper elsewhere as I've not searched yet.
>These are the same price as the vision plus. There again I'm tempted
>to try their own bulbs which are the same pricebut buy one and get one
>free and as I always buy spares for when they blow!!!

I believe they're the equivalent of the philips vision plus.

I've an idea that Ring are marketing some "60% brighter" ones which are
doubtless the same as well but with hype applied to the packets. They're a
bit cheaper.

The ones to avoid like the plague are the blue ones, which have to be 100W
to make enough light thanks to heavy filtration.

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On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:16:53 +0000, Austin Shackles wrote:

> searching on opsi (and they missed a trick, it could have been
> called oopsi..) for [road vehicles lighting] finds 382 hits...
> I bet somewhere in all that is reference to HID headlamps.

I knew there was a site somewhere with all the Acts, SIs etc on. Nice
obvious name... Of course the government don't actually want the
public to be able to see the legislation easily and quickly, we might
actually find out what a load of tosh most of it is.

> I find, in 2005, it's now legal to have flashing front or rear
> position lights on a pedal cycle.

Good, flashing lights catch your eye much better than steady. Though I
think there should be a steady front light as well, in areas with out
street lighting.

> searching for HID lamps got no hits.

Wrong search term...

I've just put in "high intensity discharge" and found amongst items
relating to high speed railways, Export of Goods Control Orders and
Fireworks found that "gas discharge headlamp system" in relation to
Motor Cycle SVAs.

"gas discharge headlamp system" brings up 3 hits, none of which are
useful in this context. One is a cross reference to ECE regulations,
the other two relate to Motor Cycles. Fiddling with those words to
broaden the search might be fruitful.

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On or around Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:05:31 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>> searching for HID lamps got no hits.
>
>Wrong search term...

quite likely, I wasn't being that thorough.
>
>I've just put in "high intensity discharge" and found amongst items
>relating to high speed railways, Export of Goods Control Orders and
>Fireworks found that "gas discharge headlamp system" in relation to
>Motor Cycle SVAs.
>
>"gas discharge headlamp system" brings up 3 hits, none of which are
>useful in this context. One is a cross reference to ECE regulations,
>the other two relate to Motor Cycles. Fiddling with those words to
>broaden the search might be fruitful.

the cross-ref or ECE is probably the one you want - I daresay it's a
European reg. but finding them is even harder than finding ours.
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