Disco 2 Help please - Clutch problems...

Hoping for some advice, if possible.... got a problemed Discovery 2 TD5, manual.

Yesterday I was finding it hard to get into gears for a journey of around 10 miles, parked up, an hour later got back in and was still having problems... within a mile the feel of the clutch pedal changed and I wasn't able to move in to any of the gears....

Stopped for an hour whilst a mate came to tow me in a Freelander TD4 (surprisingly it did quite well) Got within a mile of home, someone pulled out on us and even with us both hitting the brakes hard the straight bar snapped! So as we were on a downhill and so close to home decided to get the discovery rolling, forced into gear without a clutch and limp her home.

On route home driving the discovery, decided to try pump the clutch to see if anything came back - this was the worst thing I could have done as the issue changed from no clutch to permanent clutch?! So lost all drive and had to use a tow rope to drag the disco to the house, again with the Freelander.

It seems to me that theres a fairly obvious clutch issue (I'm no mechanic) but what on earth has happened? Could it simply be the linkage or release bearing, pressure plate?

One Thing I've checked is that there is brake fluid in the reservoir - that's what powers the hydrolic part I'm lead to believe - correct me if that's wrong.

Help please?...

Sounds like a similar problem to the Tdi where the clutch Fork wears but thought td5 used a different part. Somebody who knows more will be along soon.

Thanks Discokids....

One thing worth we telling you, before I set off yesterday I replaced the actuator solenoid - I don't know how it could affect it but could I have done something wrong to cause this?

shaunclark_sc said:

,,,,I replaced the actuator solenoid

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which actuator solenoid? ...anyway at first sight seems like the clutch slave cylinder might make tricks, if you know it's old simply replace it with new and bleed, actuallt both cylinders would be good to be ruled out before staring to remove the gearbox

shaunclark_sc said:

Hoping for some advice, if possible.... got a problemed Discovery 2 TD5, manual.

Yesterday I was finding it hard to get into gears for a journey of around 10 miles, parked up, an hour later got back in and was still having problems... within a mile the feel of the clutch pedal changed and I wasn't able to move in to any of the gears....

Stopped for an hour whilst a mate came to tow me in a Freelander TD4 (surprisingly it did quite well) Got within a mile of home, someone pulled out on us and even with us both hitting the brakes hard the straight bar snapped! So as we were on a downhill and so close to home decided to get the discovery rolling, forced into gear without a clutch and limp her home.

On route home driving the discovery, decided to try pump the clutch to see if anything came back - this was the worst thing I could have done as the issue changed from no clutch to permanent clutch?! So lost all drive and had to use a tow rope to drag the disco to the house, again with the Freelander.

It seems to me that theres a fairly obvious clutch issue (I'm no mechanic) but what on earth has happened? Could it simply be the linkage or release bearing, pressure plate?

One Thing I've checked is that there is brake fluid in the reservoir - that's what powers the hydrolic part I'm lead to believe - correct me if that's wrong.

Help please?...

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id check its actually in high or low first

sierrafery said:

which actuator solenoid?

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This one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rov...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Where's the second cylinder to replace? I'm guessing one of them it at the top of the bulkhead back left of the engine next to the brake fluid tank?

shaunclark_sc said:

This one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-2-TD5-Turbo-Waste-Gate-Control-Valve-OEM-PMK100130-x1/221191717265?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Where's the second cylinder to replace? I'm guessing one of them it at the top of the bulkhead back left of the engine next to the brake fluid tank?

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That device which you've called an "actuator solenoid" isn't.
It's a control valve in the wastegate system which controls the turbo ..... nothing to do with the clutch.
The cylinders to which @sierrafery refers would probably be the clutch slave cylinder and the clutch master cylinder.

shaunclark_sc said:

... at the top of the bulkhead back left of the engine next to the brake fluid tank?

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^^^That's the master cylinder, the slave is on the gearbox at the other end of the hydraulic pipe

Update - as a test on the master and slave cylinders today I removed the slave from the gearbox. Without the slave in place you could freely move the rod it connects to - should this move around do you know?

So, having removed the slave cylinder I got back in the car and was still able to move the gearstick through the gears freely, you can feel it go in to the gears - would I be right in thinking that the issue is definitely inside the box now?

TIA

rod is very loose with the slave removed,have you ensured its in hi and low fully

jamesmartin said:

have you ensured its in hi and low fully

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It seems to be, the lever feels like it moves in to low then back in to high normally but drive is still not there....

shaunclark_sc said:

It seems to be, the lever feels like it moves in to low then back in to high normally but drive is still not there....

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try in diff lock but failing that box will have to come out, clutch plate checked,g/box by turning input shaft in the various gears

I think mine is one of the ones that has the diff lock sticker but not the functionality! The lever only goes up and down - low and high...

see if a prop spins when its in gear

I had a similar sort of problem in a Range Rover classic manual not an R380 box but clutch hydraulics are very similar. In short the master cylinder wasn’t allowing the fluid to move as it should so the more you pushed it the more the clutch slipped until it didn’t engage at all. For the price of the parts I’d be pretty confident replacing both the master and slave cylinders and giving a thorough bleed will see the clutch working properly.

Just had a call from my mechanic, it's the actual gearbox that has a hole in it... I only bought the discovery a few weeks ago and I didn't need this! Thanks for all of the advice guys, does anyone happen to have a gearbox for sale?....

shaunclark_sc said:

Just had a call from my mechanic, it's the actual gearbox that has a hole in it... I only bought the discovery a few weeks ago and I didn't need this! Thanks for all of the advice guys, does anyone happen to have a gearbox for sale?....

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must have been oil every where