Gearbox oil argument!

Raider td5 · Jul 28, 2013

Dippypud said:
Not much has changed over the years ...

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f7/atf-r380-gearbox-dealer-85012.html

Lol... that was so long ago I couldn't remember.

Thanks for bring it up though, after going through it I just realized I used the wrong oil in the T.case. I used a GL-5 sae-90 instead of a GL-4. I just drove it about 200 kms after the oil change... have I damaged anything?

Thor1950 · Jul 28, 2013

Raider td5 said:
Lol... that was so long ago I couldn't remember.

Thanks for bring it up though, after going through it I just realized I used the wrong oil in the T.case. I used a GL-5 sae-90 instead of a GL-4. I just drove it about 200 kms after the oil change... have I damaged anything?

not yet

Wizzywill · Jul 29, 2013

So what the best oil to put in my Auto box 300tdi and what's best in the Transfer box money is not a Problem ..... I have just read this Thread and its spunk out haha

jamesmartin · Jul 29, 2013

Wizzywill said:
So what the best oil to put in my Auto box 300tdi and what's best in the Transfer box money is not a Problem ..... I have just read this Thread and its spunk out haha

dexron 2 or 3,but changes with a long time between can give gear change issues

garyrigden · Sep 3, 2013

I use difflock evolution 1 and 2 fully synthetic in my r380 and transfer box. Have used it in my last 3 discos and a freelander. It's expensive but worth it I think. :0)

Bromsgrove Defender · Sep 5, 2013

garyrigden said:
It's expensive but worth it I think. :0)

That could catch on........... oh hang on

iLandRover · Sep 13, 2013

I use Granville Oils.
They have oil search to much your track on their website, simple.

:fencing:

thebiglad · Sep 16, 2013

iLandRover said:
They have oil search to much your track on their website, simple.

:fencing:

Had you been on the sauce when you typed this????

iLandRover · Sep 23, 2013

thebiglad said:
Had you been on the sauce when you typed this????

I might have been

discool · Nov 26, 2013

garyrigden said:
I use difflock evolution 1 and 2 fully synthetic in my r380 and transfer box. Have used it in my last 3 discos and a freelander. It's expensive but worth it I think. :0)

Why no go direct to the oil company that supplies them?, and then pay less.
AMSOIL - Synthetic Oil, Motor and Engine Oil, Lubricants, Air Filters, Oil Filters and Greases

ClassikFan · Nov 26, 2013

Have read this thread with interest, I have no idea which oil is in my gear box but it is very hard to select 2nd gear when cold, I read that some contributors report a transformation when changing to MTF94. I am considering doing the same but the previous owner had a rebuilt exchange gearbox installed by Ashcroft Transmissions Ltd only a few weeks before I bought my TD5 back in May. Would Ashcroft have used an alternative to MTF94?
Thanks
Stu

discool · Nov 27, 2013

I doubt it, as they say on their site in the FAQs "We recommend MTF94 in your R380 box".

Remember MTF94 is a Texaco brand name, other oil companies also do an MTF.

ClassikFan · Nov 27, 2013

Had confirmation this morning that Ashcroft did indeed fill my gearbox with MTF94 I am left with no quick fix for my tricky second gear when cold. With winter here it is only going to get worse.

Dippypud · Nov 27, 2013

ClassikFan said:
Had confirmation this morning that Ashcroft did indeed fill my gearbox with MTF94 I am left with no quick fix for my tricky second gear when cold. With winter here it is only going to get worse.

Have you got his receipt for the box and work ?

Is it worth an ask for them to 'look' at it ?

jamesmartin · Nov 27, 2013

ClassikFan said:
Had confirmation this morning that Ashcroft did indeed fill my gearbox with MTF94 I am left with no quick fix for my tricky second gear when cold. With winter here it is only going to get worse.

worm baulk rings dont fix themselves , some times certain oils like mtf94 can seem to improve gear changes ,sometimes fresh atf can , the same baulk rings are used in all r380s from p38 rr to disco and def 1 or 2, grooves worn in side of lower gear lever can also cause sticky or stiff changes as can poor selector yoke balls and sockets

ClassikFan · Nov 27, 2013

The info I got from Ashcroft was that it is an issue with the viscosity of the oil when cold. The gear box was rebuilt in April so I hope it is not ware but I do have the invoice so will ask the question regarding a wear problem. As soon as the car has a few miles heat in it the gear change is as sweet as a nut. Trouble is I have to pull out from a side road onto a fairly busy road about 200m into any journey. A 10 second delay while trying to get 2nd gear is too long!

jamesmartin · Nov 27, 2013

ClassikFan said:
The info I got from Ashcroft was that it is an issue with the viscosity of the oil when cold. The gear box was rebuilt in April so I hope it is not ware but I do have the invoice so will ask the question regarding a wear problem. As soon as the car has a few miles heat in it the gear change is as sweet as a nut. Trouble is I have to pull out from a side road onto a fairly busy road about 200m into any journey. A 10 second delay while trying to get 2nd gear is too long!

oil has to be scraped away from gear cone by baulk ring so that it can brake gear to match selector hub speed, 2nd has the greatest work to do so usually shows first

Carrington224 · Mar 20, 2014

Went from ATF to MTF94 and back to ATF, MTF94 is bull ****, over priced bull ****.

gemsdad · Apr 13, 2014

Carrington224 said:
Went from ATF to MTF94 and back to ATF, MTF94 is bull ****, over priced bull ****.

holy thread revival sad man,er batman.

SteNova · Aug 20, 2014

mines still doing fine on atf

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