I dislike the feeling of trasmition windup all flanders seem to have, now i know that some is normal but i still dont like it, i have had a good look at makeing a dog clutch, it could be done but would be expencive. i have however been thinking about a free wheel on the rear prop shaft, i can get a sprag bearing and it should be easy for me to turn up a housing and shorten the shaft, by about 40mm. this would give 4x4 forwards only when the front sliped but i would lose 4x4 in reverse, i think this would be ok, it would also be ok to fit only two new tyres at a time, what do you all think?
freewheel perhaps?
- Thread starter nongrokal
- Start date
This site contains affiliate links for which LandyZone may be compensated if you make a purchase.
chromiumuk
Well-Known Member
- Posts
- 2,203
- Location
- Earth
howardo
New Member
- Posts
- 6,783
- Location
- In the woods
Seems like a lot of messing, it would affect stuff like insurance.
If you don't like the feel of the freelander why not just buy something else?
if i remove the rear prop there is no point in a 4x4, selectable 4x4 is the thing but to expensive, this way in snow or mud i will keep going, as for the purists that say why buy a freelander then alter it, perhaps you should look at british motering history, it is full of good cars that have been made better by amaters, land rover made a good car but they messed up wiyh the drive set up, it should have had a center diff as outhers did, i expect the bean counters got at it
- Posts
- 44,918
- Location
- Hornchurch
shocking clutch on em though
Davec
New Member
- Posts
- 2,131
Surely a viscous coupling is basically a sophisticated free-wheel, so I'm not sure what you are gaining, apart from a bit of simplicity. On the other hand if you meet someone else in the snow and want to back up....
I'm not too keen on only having 2 wd when going down hill.
Just think, you are basically thinking of a system Land-Rover stopped using in 1950!
I'm not too keen on only having 2 wd when going down hill.
Just think, you are basically thinking of a system Land-Rover stopped using in 1950!
chromiumuk
Well-Known Member
- Posts
- 2,203
- Location
- Earth
freelance
Well-Known Member
- Posts
- 8,704
- Location
- essex and beyond
it should be possible to source an inline electromagnetic clutch to replace the viscous unit, and then have a switch in the car, some engineering expertise would be needed, but it shouldn't be too difficult, the problem arises when not on a slippery surface in direct 4WD where does all the wind up go, therefore you still need a viscous coupling to differentiate between the axles, so check it, replace it if necessary, i think there is little choice but to stick with it,
if you wanted to be anal about it you could use abs sensor data to computerize it.
But as a gaylander is flawed- why not cross it with a pajero and you can have a spanish ****er hippo with super select 4wd
But as a gaylander is flawed- why not cross it with a pajero and you can have a spanish ****er hippo with super select 4wd
50cc
Member
- Posts
- 76
- Location
- Westerland, The Netherlands
This has been discussed on here before. I even contacted Ashcroft on this, their response is also in the thread:
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f9/freelander-selectable-4-4-a-80714-7.html
From Ashcroft:
No updates yet...
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f9/freelander-selectable-4-4-a-80714-7.html
From Ashcroft:
No updates yet...
vic.middleton
Active Member
- Posts
- 285
- Location
- Risley, Derby
Have you thought this through?
Wind-up occurs because the rear wheels do not rotate as far as the front wheels on going round a bend. The freewheel would have to be slipping in this case so as not to load the transmission.
The freelander transmission is designed to drive the rear wheels when the front ones slip. i.e. they are going faster/further than the rear wheels. So a freewheel to unload the drive when cornering would also decouple it in all forward motion, not what you wanted. It would be good in reverse though!
Wind-up occurs because the rear wheels do not rotate as far as the front wheels on going round a bend. The freewheel would have to be slipping in this case so as not to load the transmission.
The freelander transmission is designed to drive the rear wheels when the front ones slip. i.e. they are going faster/further than the rear wheels. So a freewheel to unload the drive when cornering would also decouple it in all forward motion, not what you wanted. It would be good in reverse though!
Yes vic i did give it a bit of thought, i understand that early freelanders have a differant rear diff to the front and drive faster from the back, for this a freewheel is perfect, my freelander seems to wear tyres at the same speed all round, if i was to replace just the front ones the rears should turn faster, it would even be possable to fit lower profile tyres on the back and as you say the most savige windup is in reverse say when parking. i did look into an electric clutch, perfectly ok but expensive, what would be perfect would be a magnetic partical clutch, this could replace the vcu and give a fully ajustable 4x4, i have contacted a firm in india for a price and will post it when it comes
