1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Welcome To LandyZone!

    LandyZone is the biggest Land Rover forum on the net. We have plenty of very knowledgable members so if you have any questions about your Land Rover or just want to connect with other Landy owners, you're in the right place.

    Registering is free and easy just click here, we hope to see you on the forums soon!

D2 Facelift Headlights stolen too.

Discussion in 'Land Rover Discovery' started by Daveblu, Sep 29, 2013.

  1. chrisyleigh

    chrisyleigh New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2013
    Posts:
    756
    Likes Received:
    0
    This should be made a sticky! Im wanting to do the convertion on mine so ill look out for lights ect
     
  2. ArticFox

    ArticFox New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2006
    Posts:
    309
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    South Yorkshire
    I was going to fit facelift lamps to my D2 last year - even bought the lights, trims etc (lights off a breaker at the Peterbog show BTW ;) ) but in the end I decided against it - I was one of the 'it'll never happen to me' brigade, but I came back from shopping one day and found this next to my D2

    [​IMG]

    So I decided against it in the end.

    I guess it would be possible to fit the non facelift lamps to vehicles fitted with facelift lamps, however, fitting facelift lamps into a pre-facelift D2 involves lots of metal cutting, so I expect you'd need to weld new headlamp boxes back in.

    I went down a different route and fitted a facelift bumper while retaining my pre facelift lamps. I think it looks great, even if I say so myself :D

    [​IMG]
     
  3. StuRox

    StuRox Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2009
    Posts:
    1,743
    Likes Received:
    47
    Location:
    Nr Bath
    Wasn't that hard to fit facelift into a 300, bit of angle grinding here and there, but easy a morning/days work...

    [​IMG]

    Plus modded my winch bumper with a wrap around and lots more hidden steel so no easy access to the lights without a lot of work ;)
     
  4. MGBGTV8

    MGBGTV8 Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2012
    Posts:
    690
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    Alfreton, Derbyshire

    Well I say so too!
    Nice one :cool:
     
  5. mrnice

    mrnice Loading.....

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2008
    Posts:
    2,838
    Likes Received:
    107
    Location:
    Up **** creek.
    You know what stu I was just going to post something about fitting a bullbar to a disco2 but couldnt find any wraparound ones online, guess the law changed before they were built.

    But it looks like you can have your cake AND eat it mate!

    I wonder if these light guards would help at all: Land Rover Discovery 2 Td5 / V8 Front Light Guards | eBay They seem to be bolted onto the grill and poss the wing? maybe with some bigger heavy duty bolts and some steel plate?
     
  6. ashleywood.ash

    ashleywood.ash Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2009
    Posts:
    505
    Likes Received:
    18
    Location:
    sheffield uk
    if they are the brittle plastic ones then no. the last one i attended they just snapped the guards straight off and left them there on the floor.


    the bull bar is a winner, a tug-of-war team wouldnt get through that
     
  7. mrnice

    mrnice Loading.....

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2008
    Posts:
    2,838
    Likes Received:
    107
    Location:
    Up **** creek.
    What are the legalities re bull bars, on disco 1 and 2? Are you allowed the big metal wraparound ones on a Disco 2?
     
  8. thought it was mine!

    thought it was mine! New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2008
    Posts:
    8,236
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    zooport makes little britian seem posh!!!
    bought my td5 "99 plate" with chrome a frame factory fitted £1369.68 pence (fooking stupid ####).Receipt in with service history, reason i bought my beast, but would not of paid that for a bit of chrome and spots
     
  9. thought it was mine!

    thought it was mine! New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2008
    Posts:
    8,236
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    zooport makes little britian seem posh!!!
    i was going to do face lift, but thought the d2 only ran for a short time, most of it's short life was the face lift so the pre face lift lights where more exclusive ;)
     
  10. LordWolf

    LordWolf New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Posts:
    153
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Kent, UK
    I have the common 40-something quid headlight guards on mine and if they have to be removed to change a bulb then they have to be removed to pull the headlight out. They are steel, a very common part and are attached under the bonnet and to the wing...job done, lights protected from knocks AND thieving scumbags.
     
  11. Maaarrghk

    Maaarrghk New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2013
    Posts:
    269
    Likes Received:
    1
    I posted on a similar thread on this site a few weeks back asking how they were so easy to just "pop out". I'm sure many replied to say something like "Well actually they just rag 'em out yer simple bugger!"

    However I have not re-found that thread tonight so chose this one instead.

    Some readers of that thread might smirk a bit to hear that on that very night my lights got pinched, so I have spent a good deal of the past few weeks wiping great dollops of egg off my face.

    About 4 sets were done in Halifax that same night, including one that had had them stolen only 2 weeks earlier. Also a few sets went missing in Queensbury, near Bradford. Probably the same thieves.

    All kosher used items had been snapped up by the time my contact had found that the set he'd got for me had been converted to the earlier wiring style and superglued shut.

    So it was £500 for new ones - guess what the voluntary excess is on my insurance.

    I have engraved the lenses at the top with the reg number using a Dremel - looks a mess, but traceable if they go again.

    Talking with my contact Howard Beaumont of Beaumont Land Rovers in Wainstalls revealed that both the stainless security bars that were mentioned in similar threads as well as the straps shown in this thread just fall easy prey to a set of bolt croppers - so that 21 seconds (confirmed by Halifax Police) becomes 23 seconds.

    So I got my thinking cap on and have made a set of stainless brackets (3 per light) 2 of which cannot be accessed without opening the bonnet and the third without either opening the bonnet or ripping out the grille. I also park the Disco up against the garden wall but don't really like parking on the wet lawn. Not good for the chassis.

    I have drawn up the brackets and passed them to Beaumonts who are assessing them for either production or just selling the drawings for a few quid. They looked after me so I am giving them this opportunity - give them a call if you want to know more.

    If Beaumonts decide not to produce brackets or sell the drawings, then I will publish them in pdf format on this site and any other similar sites. I will not be making any profit for myself out of these whatever happens. I am just happy to make some thieving little turds life a bit harder.

    Speaking with a few more folks and I found that one bloke in my area has built a bit of a box on his drive that he just drives the front end of his Disco into - just as far as the windscreen and about 6 inch clealence both sides. This sounds easy enough and would be secure if the floor timbers were rawl or resin bolted to a concrete floor and the whole structure screwed instead of nailed together. An afternoons work and my lad can use it as a den when I'm at work. That will be the next job so I don't have to park on the lawn.

    And I'm not finished yet. Next will be the idea raised on a similar thread about using door or bonnet switches and a parallel feed from the bonnet alarm switch to alarm not the lights, but the trim panels underneath - these have to come off first, so get that alarm set off as early in the theft as possible. Why wait until they have your lights in their hands before the alarm goes off?

    Twenty seconds is not a long time to make a few hundred quid and sadly any dreams we might have of catching the thieves at it will in reality be just that, even if you sleep by the door and and give chase in your chosen mode of nightwear you would still be lucky to get any facial description or even a vehicle registration (probably false anyway).

    I do entertain dreams of razor blades smeared with dog poo araldited under the lights just where they get hold of the lights to tug them out. But then I have to ask myself the following:-

    Do I want to do some work under there in a few months and forget about them - Ouch!

    Do I want some poor mechanic or future owner to be "bitten".

    Do I want to risk getting arrested for wounding or attempted murder - look up what you can catch from getting dog poo in a cut.

    So that bit does not form any part of an admission, it's just the bitter ramblings of a bloke who's had one too many financial knocks recently and may have to end up selling his Disco.:violin:

    Hope this post helps save a few of you from waking up one morning to an eyeless car. I now know what needs to be done to minimize this happening again, so all I can suggest is that some of you get on the phone to Mr Beaumont about those brackets. Sorry if parts of this post have sounded like an advert for him - he was recomended by a good mate, so was the first guy I went to and he looked after me.
     
  12. brian47

    brian47 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2013
    Posts:
    6,369
    Likes Received:
    2,823
    Location:
    Bridgend, Mid Glam. Somebody's got to live here.
  13. cambridgecockney

    cambridgecockney Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2012
    Posts:
    677
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Coalville leicestershire. dont know why
    Just ordered a set of each for mine.also going to find a way of alarming.
     
  14. Maaarrghk

    Maaarrghk New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2013
    Posts:
    269
    Likes Received:
    1
    With my devils advocate hat on.......

    Etching is all well and good, but can be sanded away in a few minutes.

    Engraving with something like a dremel will go deeper - it can look a mess if you don't have a steady hand, but is much harder to obscure.

    Always best to go for some sort of bracket or the "parking box" I suggested earlier if you have the space for it. Or rig up an alarm system of some kind.

    You need to be looking at ways to stop your lights being pinched first and foremost.

    Would the sort of fool who would buy "slightly damaged" lights on the cheap from some nameless e-bay "trader" really be that bothered about having to sand away another vehicles reg' number?

    Do the Police really have the time to look at every Disco 2 they see checking for matches between etching on lights and the cars number plate?

    Once your stolen lights go on e-bay it could be the bloke down the road or the bloke at the other end of the country that ends up with them. Even if they are daft enouhgh not to sand away your etched details, what chance is there of you finding your lights?

    A further note on security systems that "bite". Talking to a Disco owning ex-Gamekeeper mate last night revealed that the legislation that would put you behind bars for booby trapping your lights is that which was enacted in 1860 outlawing the use of man traps for use against poachers. Even in those days it would seem that legislators were in the habit of passing laws that went too far and that ended up not protecting those that the law is meant to protect.
     
  15. cambridgecockney

    cambridgecockney Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2012
    Posts:
    677
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Coalville leicestershire. dont know why
    True but may make them think twice and pinch the blokes up the road that arent marked.also fitting another alarm with switches behind lower trims.
     
  16. Stutheboy

    Stutheboy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2013
    Posts:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    West Yorkshire
  17. Big Phil

    Big Phil Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2007
    Posts:
    102
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sheffield
    " I do entertain dreams of razor blades smeared with dog poo araldited under the lights just where they get hold of the lights to tug them out. But then I have to ask myself the following:-

    Do I want to do some work under there in a few months and forget about them - Ouch!

    Do I want some poor mechanic or future owner to be "bitten".

    Do I want to risk getting arrested for wounding or attempted murder - look up what you can catch from getting dog poo in a cut. "




    Aye, One better than blades, fishing hooks with nice large barbs on them. Glue em under the lights where tea leaf gets a hold as he pulls em out. Good result, tea leaf runs away with lacerated fingers where the hooks caught him. Even better result, tea leaf has a set of fingers hooked, and cannot pull them away. Has to stay there till coppers come and have him freed.

    Of course I would not advise any Disco owners to do this, as the tea leaf would probably sue you and be awarded tens of thousands of pounds compo. While as the owner you would be prosecuted and fined for causing injury to said tea leaf.

    Regards

    Phil*
     
  18. AceB

    AceB Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Posts:
    148
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    Lewes, East Sussex
    When you say 'they' I notice all five of your posts reference this kit, are you connected to them at all, if so how much is the kit? I did look on the wix website but neither the contact us or the online store buttons work.
     
  19. Big Phil

    Big Phil Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2007
    Posts:
    102
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sheffield
    What is the actual reason for fitting the face lift headlights.

    Regards

    Phil*
     
  20. Mudron

    Mudron Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2013
    Posts:
    233
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Salisbury
    How about two pin switches, 1 for each light. Mounted in such a way that when a light is removed while the alarm is set (piggybacked onto the bonnet switch circuit) it sets off the alarm. Simple and cheap to apply.